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Old 07-30-2009, 09:37 PM
 
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You can't be a lawyer. A real attorney would know a doctor doesn't just show up to the trial and leave after 2 hours. It requires several meetings and hours of time deliberating with the attorneys.

First of all, I didn't take that case because I want to focus my time on patients rather than waste time in the courts. Furthermore, the attorneys who approached me claimed their judgement would likely yield a fee in excess of 1 million and that perhaps my fee would be more. It was a preliminary discussion. For 85,000 fee, I'm confident they could find a physician who would testify for less.

You are also assuming the lawyer is working on 100% contigency which many don't and still charge their clients fees. Also, attorneys aren't forced to represent people. They weigh the likelihood that they will win a case based on the evidence. The paralegal fees you quoted are grossly inflated. The average paralegal salary is 44,000 with a range of 25K-60K so how are they getting 33% to 50% of their annual salary in one case? I don't think so. The attorney is keeping most of that 85,000 fee yet that's not enough?
I get you two confused. But was it you are hawkeye that said that they took two depositions a week for the insurance company? I am assuming that you were using the article that you cited. In the article the person stated that based on a cap and the attorney getting a third. That is a contingency basis when the attorney gets a percentage not by the hour. I am assuming that you read the article that you cited. Again under a contingency based fee system which is what the article you cited was talking about, you only get that if you win. The paralegal analysis is an estimate it depends on whether you have to contract one for the litigation or whether you pay the paralegal. By the way good paralegals in Atlanta can pull down anywhere between 80k and 110K for mass tort litigation, which is a lot more complicated than med mal.

You would not have a problem finding an attorney if you were going to retain him for 83,000. Why must you misrepresent things. Go back and read your own article. You are wasting everyones time when you misrepresent your own article.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:32 PM
 
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I get you two confused. But was it you are hawkeye that said that they took two depositions a week for the insurance company? I am assuming that you were using the article that you cited. In the article the person stated that based on a cap and the attorney getting a third. That is a contingency basis when the attorney gets a percentage not by the hour. I am assuming that you read the article that you cited. Again under a contingency based fee system which is what the article you cited was talking about, you only get that if you win. The paralegal analysis is an estimate it depends on whether you have to contract one for the litigation or whether you pay the paralegal. By the way good paralegals in Atlanta can pull down anywhere between 80k and 110K for mass tort litigation, which is a lot more complicated than med mal.

You would not have a problem finding an attorney if you were going to retain him for 83,000. Why must you misrepresent things. Go back and read your own article. You are wasting everyones time when you misrepresent your own article.
So when you see those personal injury lawyers on television, do you get excited?
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:42 PM
 
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This thread is depressing. It is abundantly clear to me that I chose the wrong profession!
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:47 PM
 
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As I understand it, the lawyer's fee is on top of the cost of running the case (expert witnesses, etc). Like, "This is my fee...plus expenses."
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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This thread is depressing. It is abundantly clear to me that I chose the wrong profession!
LOL same here! When $85,000 per case isn't enough of a fee, you know you are in the wrong field And what's funny are the retorts: "No they only get 55,000 of that fee"
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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As I understand it, the lawyer's fee is on top of the cost of running the case (expert witnesses, etc). Like, "This is my fee...plus expenses."
Yes, I think that's right. I forgot that lawyers subtract their "expenses"(2 hour power lunches at three star restaurants") from their fee. Nice call
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:23 AM
 
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Yes, I think that's right. I forgot that lawyers subtract their "expenses"(2 hour power lunches at three star restaurants") from their fee. Nice call
Thats not true. You are being silly.
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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It's the docs out playing golf at the country club on Thursday afternoon while the lawyers work.

Interesting article in the Washington Post today about all the shenanigans doctors pull. Want to be sure you get a CT scan for whatever aliment you have? Go to a doc who owns his own CT scanner.
washingtonpost.com
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's the docs out playing golf at the country club on Thursday afternoon while the lawyers work.

Interesting article in the Washington Post today about all the shenanigans doctors pull. Want to be sure you get a CT scan for whatever aliment you have? Go to a doc who owns his own CT scanner.
washingtonpost.com
Yes. And all doctors are just like that one.

Btw, that is out of pocket for the patients. Rich people who have nothing better to do than spend 800 bucks on a 'whole body scan.' How is that different from elective plastic surgery?
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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Haha, I only make 40K a year currently, but most of the clients I talk to live within that range, so I get in essence why they claim to need that amount, but whatever.
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