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Hows about the father has to formally inform the mother of this before the first trimester is over or else he is subject to child support costs? She knows full well what shes getting into and can plan accordingly.
A large percentage of people consider abortion murder. How do you get around that?
Don't stick it in someone you wouldn't want to raise a child with. Why isn't that good enough?
You should know in case you did not, that if a man wants to have the child and the woman does not, he is out of luck. The woman holds all the cards, are you saying that this does not effect people, you are wrong. Imagine the man who wants the child and cant have him, imagine the would be grand parents, cousins, aunts and uncles that miss out on this possible childs life. So to say that there is only a cause and effect situation when it comes to men who dont want to be a father is false.
This argument is always brought up....and if you remember, I went so far as to grant this argument, and say that a woman needs the man's permission to abort......
But that ain't the case most of the time.
Funny it gets brought up though....everytime. If the woman doesn't want it, she's got to have it just to give to you. If the man doesn't want it, he doesn't have to do anything. at all. You want it your way in all scenarios.
Hows about the father has to formally inform the mother of this before the first trimester is over or else he is subject to child support costs? She knows full well what shes getting into and can plan accordingly.
So you want to make it real difficult for a woman to have a man's child......neither of you wanted it, so you're saying 'abort or raise the child with no help from me'. So more abortions, more single parents. Hooray. That's what you're advocating. Sounds nice huh.
A large percentage of people consider abortion murder. How do you get around that?
Don't stick it in someone you wouldn't want to raise a child with. Why isn't that good enough?
Abortion is not murder, Murder is title for a crime not the actual action, the proper term is kill.
Even if it is, it is legal for a woman to do. How is what some might call murder okay in the overall populations eyes but not paying child support is not only wrong but almost evil.
This argument is always brought up....and if you remember, I went so far as to grant this argument, and say that a woman needs the man's permission to abort......
But that ain't the case most of the time.
Funny it gets brought up though....everytime. If the woman doesn't want it, she's got to have it just to give to you. If the man doesn't want it, he doesn't have to do anything. at all. You want it your way in all scenarios.
ah, wrong... as it stands today it is okay for a woman to have an abortion. But a man cannot get out of child support.
If it was to go the way we want it, the only thing that would change would be that the man now has the option to get out of child support and parenthood as the woman can get out of parenthood.
Also, a woman does not need permission to do anything whatever she wants with her own body. A man has, and never should have any control over a womans body, in any way.
ah, wrong... as it stands today it is okay for a woman to have an abortion. But a man cannot get out of child support.
If it was to go the way we want it, the only thing that would change would be that the man now has the option to get out of child support and parenthood as the woman can get out of parenthood.
Also, a woman does not need permission to do anything whatever she wants with her own body. A man has, and never should have any control over a womans body, in any way.
She gets out of the pregnancy, you BOTH get out of parenthood.
You can't compare the two. It's absurd. Abortion and child support. There's just no logical way to compare the two and make any conclusions. It's just crazy. For so many reasons.
We're back to square one....which is, for whatever reason you come up with, you want the right to get out of fathering a child. You want no responsibility. You want to answer to no one.
That's such a praise worthy aspiration.....a wonderful and blessed idea.
Abortion is not murder, Murder is title for a crime not the actual action, the proper term is kill.
Even if it is, it is legal for a woman to do. How is what some might call murder okay in the overall populations eyes but not paying child support is not only wrong but almost evil.
So you really want those people who consider abortion 'murder' but you say it's to 'kill' to think they're the same thing as child support?
Murder/kill is on the same legal and moral level as child support payments??
She gets out of the pregnancy, you BOTH get out of parenthood.
I dont thin you are getting this. Some men do want to be fathers and do not want the woman to get an abortion.
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You can't compare the two. It's absurd. Abortion and child support. There's just no logical way to compare the two and make any conclusions. It's just crazy. For so many reasons.
We're back to square one....which is, for whatever reason you come up with, you want the right to get out of fathering a child. You want no responsibility. You want to answer to no one.
That's such a praise worthy aspiration.....a wonderful and blessed idea.
Okay, I have to know which one do you think is worse? not paying child support or abortion? I would have to say abortion. Since it leaves no options for the man after the fact. But if the woman does have the child she has multiple choices, and the man has 1 choice, be a father, even if he doesnt want to, or pay the bills as if you where a father. And yes you can compare the two.
So you really want those people who consider abortion 'murder' but you say it's to 'kill' to think they're the same thing as child support?
Murder/kill is on the same legal and moral level as child support payments??
First off, abortion is not murder and is only immoral to those that wish it to be so. For every other sane person it is not immoral.
Your right though, how can you put a value on life right?
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