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Old 08-02-2009, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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“Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.” - George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775…
CIVICS NEWS: George Washington on Torture (http://civicsnews.blogspot.com/2009/06/george-washington-on-torture.html - broken link)
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Another quote from the father of our country, George Washington:

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“‘Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to complain of our copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren who have fallen into their hands,’ he wrote. In all respects the prisoners were to be treated no worse than American soldiers; and in some respects, better. Through this approach, Washington sought to shame his British adversaries, and to demonstrate the moral superiority of the American cause.
George Washington: No Torture on My Watch « Antiwar.com Blog
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:33 PM
 
Location: USA
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We are talking about torture. You cannot "target" terrorists with torture!
?? Yes, I thought we were talking about torturing our "captured" terrorists.

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Old 08-02-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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You are quite the humanist.
What the hell is that supposed to mean, and what connection does it have to anything I said?
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:36 PM
 
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as do most of the so-called "Moral Majority" in the conservative, christo fascist right wing.
The 'Moral Majority' are neither moral or a majority
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:53 PM
 
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Are you really as stupid as you seem? Is that even possible?
What we have here is a failure to communicate, largely because you have no concept of right and wrong or good and evil. I do, and with all her faults, America is on the right side, now of course if we keep heading the direction we are heading with folks that have the same mentality as yours that could very well change.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Of course they could. Why not? America would have no right whatsoever to protest such a thing if it were to happen. America would have no right whatsoever to complain about the Geneva Conventions not being respected if such a thing were to happen. In fact, if the Taliban wanted to they could torture that Army serviceman that they have captured in Afghanistan. Why not? Drill baby drill, isn't that right Silas777?

When the Russians were fighting in Afganistan in the 1980s they tried to use brutality to break the insurgents the Afgans used an effective tactic that really messed up the Russians minds. The Afgans castrated captured Russian soldiers and then sent the unfortunate Russians back to Russian outposts. Russian servicemen got the message. I wonder how US troops would respond to this message from the Taliban.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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Of course they could. Why not? America would have no right whatsoever to protest such a thing if it were to happen. America would have no right whatsoever to complain about the Geneva Conventions not being respected if such a thing were to happen. In fact, if the Taliban wanted to they could torture that Army serviceman that they have captured in Afghanistan. Why not? Drill baby drill, isn't that right Silas777?
Perhaps you havent noticed, the people we are talking about already have no respect for the geneva convention! HELLO!! What the hell do you think we are talking about?
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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What we have here is a failure to communicate, largely because you have no concept of right and wrong or good and evil. I do, and with all her faults, America is on the right side, now of course if we keep heading the direction we are heading with folks that have the same mentality as yours that could very well change.
On the contrary, we understand each other perfectly well. To be lectured on "right and wrong" by someone who hasn't yet figured out that morality is about what you do, not who you are, and that the end doesn't justify the means, is a bit like being lectured on integral calculus by someone who believes 2+2=5. But what you are saying is clear enough. Evil, but brazenly clear.
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:39 PM
 
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Muslims are not scum. Christians are not scum. Both religions, however, have fanatics attached to them that are little better than scum, as they uise religion as a tool to control other people. They use religion as their shield and tell others to "have faith" while they kill other people in a holy war.
Government is the God of the Liberals. I bet you never made the connection.
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