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Old 08-02-2009, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Please watch the video on how jesus would be politically.



How does Jesus effect the way you vote?

Seems like Jesus is against everything people on the right stand for.
I have read the posts responding to the OP and unless you have studied the Bible and the many commentaries regarding Jesus and his take on government most of you are just slanting Jesus to meet your own personal beliefs/agenda.

If you truly want to learn, investigate what we know and can speculate about Jesus and where he stood regarding government, etc., I encourage you to do so. You will be surprised and enlightened. To the rest that are not truly interested keep on showing your ignorance. That seems to be the most popular thing to do anyways.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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I have read the posts responding to the OP and unless you have studied the Bible and the many commentaries regarding Jesus and his take on government most of you are just slanting Jesus to meet your own personal beliefs/agenda.

If you truly want to learn, investigate what we know and can speculate about Jesus and where he stood regarding government, etc., I encourage you to do so. You will be surprised and enlightened. To the rest that are not truly interested keep on showing your ignorance. That seems to be the most popular thing to do anyways.

Good post. I think that people will see and read into Christ's life what they want to.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I have read the posts responding to the OP and unless you have studied the Bible and the many commentaries regarding Jesus and his take on government most of you are just slanting Jesus to meet your own personal beliefs/agenda.

If you truly want to learn, investigate what we know and can speculate about Jesus and where he stood regarding government, etc., I encourage you to do so. You will be surprised and enlightened. To the rest that are not truly interested keep on showing your ignorance. That seems to be the most popular thing to do anyways.
It's about the treatment of fellow man, not about government. Socialism is an economic system, not a form of government.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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It's about the treatment of fellow man, not about government. Socialism is an economic system, not a form of government.
Socialism like religion is only as good as the people that run it. In other words it will be corrupted and useless as long as man is involved. If Jesus were here I do believe he would practice socialism and I would happily be a part of it. Any other kind, practice, of socialism is doomed to corruption, misuse, and abuse. Sorry to burst you bubble but socialism on a large scale has always failed the people it strives to serve. I know that for a fact growing up in the days of hippie communes, etc.. I guess people are just doomed to not learn from past track records.

BTW, you can't have socialism without a socialist government to run it other than in commune settings which are very limited in their effectiveness.

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Old 08-02-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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Jesus would have nothing to do with politics. That is clear from the Bible. He would also have nothing to do with Big Religion. That is also clear. Jesus would be helping the poor, the down trodden, the widows. He would scorn the far right and far left. Jesus would do the right thing and not the politically correct thing. Jesus would surprise the heck out of a lot of people, both far right and far left.
Which is why I am wondering the strong believers in christ, or who at least claim to be, seem to be pro war and greedy in general.

The video was just to show some of the things jesus believed in, I myself am not saying he would run for office, I am saying the people who vote for him seem to vote completely against his teachings.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Which is why I am wondering the strong believers in christ, or who at least claim to be, seem to be pro war and greedy in general.

The video was just to show some of the things jesus believed in, I myself am not saying he would run for office, I am saying the people who vote for him seem to vote completely against his teachings.
There's your KEY word that unlocks the whole thing.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Jesus has no place in politics. Just like Muhammed, Buddah, or Judaism.

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." - Thomas Jefferson
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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And your point?
Just pointing out the ignorance of those saying Jesus would be a pacifist.
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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Please watch the video on how jesus would be politically.



How does Jesus effect the way you vote?

Seems like Jesus is against everything people on the right stand for.

This is wrong. Jesus was very much for doing the right things, very pro business using good sense such as using money to make money, paying taxes and obeying government (giving to ceasar what is ceasar's), helping out those in need as we do in Christianity the world over, hating killing of unborn!, not condoning divorce, not condoning wrong traditions in the church.
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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That's what i was thinking. He's also a pacifist and would probably abolish the military, or at least bring them home.

I just think its interesting the people on the right who have an interventionist foreign policy and hate taxes and giving to the poor whats "not theirs" claim to be very strong christians..
Jesus did not say no wars, his mission was not to create wars, but he spoke on how men are to be smart with enemies in war.
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