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Old 08-02-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: West, Southwest, East & Northeast
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A tax increase for the middle class is inevitable. You might say it's a done deal! Obama lied about the amount of income before taxes went up , but he's lied many, many times concerning most everything else. But hey, many of his followers don't care - they love him. You know, the left-wing liberals and the scumbags that don't want to work and are just looking for handouts. Those, along with virtually every African-American, are the ones that elected the fraud.

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Old 08-02-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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How else is the gov going to get out of his massive debt?
Our debt won't be paid for for some time, probably not in the next decade.

The only thing Obama can try and do is balance the budget, which I think they are working on within the next few years.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Our debt won't be paid for for some time, probably not in the next decade.
It won't ever be paid. We have yet to pay off our Civil War debt, or that from WWI or WWII. Governments are not like households.

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The only thing Obama can try and do is balance the budget, which I think they are working on within the next few years.
Won't happen. We'll eventually be able to reduce the deficits from these emergency highs, and more importantly, as US (and foreign) GDP begins to grow again, we can bring the debt-to-GDP ratio back into a more normal zone, but there is too much work out there to be done to believe that a balanced budget lies anywhere in the foreseeable future.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:48 PM
 
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Todays Democrats...raise taxes, the answer to everything.

If only they thought like this guy...

"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964

That is why he lower taxes to stimulate the economy.He was a liberal in his day bvut definitely not a socialist or communist as is evident by his record.many of teh peopole now days are as evidenced by their record of being deadbeats on society.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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John F. Kennedy was the last president to stand up to the Federal Reserve, and got a few bullets in the head for his troubles.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Todays Democrats...raise taxes, the answer to everything.

If only they thought like this guy...

"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964
Yes, the Kennedy adminstration changed the rate from 20% at the low end and 91% at the high end, to 16% at the low end and 77% at the high end.

Lets take it back to 20%/91%, and then talk about
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:08 PM
 
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Obama lied about the amount of income before taxes went up , but he's lied many, many times concerning most everything else. But hey, many of his followers don't care - they love him. You know, the left-wing liberals and the scumbags that don't want to work and are just looking for handouts. Those, along with virtually every African-American, are the ones that elected the fraud.
Bush lied about WMDs, and he lied many, many times concerning most everything else. But hey, many of his followers didn't care - they loved him. You know, the right-wing neo-cons and the scumbags that only wanted to make money from the war and were just looking for deep gov't pockets. Those, along with virtually every Wall Street CEO, are the ones that elected the fraud.

They all lie....
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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It won't ever be paid. We have yet to pay off our Civil War debt, or that from WWI or WWII. Governments are not like households.


Won't happen. We'll eventually be able to reduce the deficits from these emergency highs, and more importantly, as US (and foreign) GDP begins to grow again, we can bring the debt-to-GDP ratio back into a more normal zone, but there is too much work out there to be done to believe that a balanced budget lies anywhere in the foreseeable future.

Wait a minute.

Your boy said so himself.

I will run the WH budget just like you have to run your household budget.

He said it and either he lied his ass off or of course his household budget was not to great.

Afterall it took him and Mikey 15 years to pay off their students loans not to good for a person who has made crazy money for many years.

Like I said, he could not run a bake sale and make any money.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Wait a minute.

Your boy said so himself.

I will run the WH budget just like you have to run your household budget.

He said it and either he lied his ass off or of course his household budget was not to great.

Afterall it took him and Mikey 15 years to pay off their students loans not to good for a person who has made crazy money for many years.

Like I said, he could not run a bake sale and make any money.
A kid running a lemonade stand already has more business experience than Obama.

Maybe that's why the apologists are using psychopathic comments like "governments don't run budgets like households".
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Bush lied about WMDs, and he lied many, many times concerning most everything else. But hey, many of his followers didn't care - they loved him. You know, the right-wing neo-cons and the scumbags that only wanted to make money from the war and were just looking for deep gov't pockets. Those, along with virtually every Wall Street CEO, are the ones that elected the fraud.

They all lie....
But your liberals sent our men and woman to war without reading the facts first.

No one has made money on this war, you can believe that all you want. Left wings nuts said we were going their for oil, well no oil. Then they said we were going there to rebuild it and make money, didnt happen.

Thanks to these dems we went to war. You might notice the names in red, one is Obamas boss and the other is Obamas brains. The others are who have caused massive problem in America today.

Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)

Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)

Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

Stop whining all the time. Obama promises to end the wars and he had done nothing but screw up.

Death numbers are on the rise again since Obama took over or did you know that?
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