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Old 08-02-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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All of the above. Each of the things you mention harm a child.
So do all sorts of non-sexual things. Kill people for those too?
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:21 PM
 
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Come on use your brain what do you think it means. A kiss on the check? You are a smart man I know that from your posts please don't be obtuse now.
I'm sorry. I'm not a mind-reader. I interpreted a "huge with something extra" as a hug where an adult gropes a child in a sexual manner. In my opinion, that would not merit the death penalty.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I'm sorry. I'm not a mind-reader. I interpreted a "huge with something extra" as a hug where an adult gropes a child in a sexual manner. In my opinion, that would not merit the death penalty.
In any remotely sane person's opinion.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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The last part is true. You'll notice that nobody demands the death penalty for alcoholics, even ones who gratuitously endanger their children by driving drunk with them in the car (which I suppose can be compared in terms of risk with molestation, except that molestation is almost never fatal.)

By the way, the fact that pedophilia is not a curable condition (just like alcoholism) does not mean it is true, as the tv shouters, politicians, et al. like to claim, that all pedophiles reoffend. (That would be like saying that no alcoholics remain sober).
Excellent points. A lot of people become very irrational whenever sex enters the situation. I don't agree with the death penalty or even locking someone up for life because he "might" do it again.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Over There
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The last part is true. You'll notice that nobody demands the death penalty for alcoholics, even ones who gratuitously endanger their children by driving drunk with them in the car (which I suppose can be compared in terms of risk with molestation, except that molestation is almost never fatal.)
Can you really compare driving in the car drunk with a child where you might have an accident to a pedophile molesting a child? That is ridiculous.


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By the way, the fact that pedophilia is not a curable condition (just like alcoholism) does not mean it is true, as the tv shouters, politicians, et al. like to claim, that all pedophiles reoffend. (That would be like saying that no alcoholics remain sober).
Ok let's look at this ok. If an alcoholic re-offends most of the time it is only himself he is hurting, if a pedophile re-offends he has taken yet another child to the depths of hell. HUGE difference, HUGE!



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A very long prison sentence. Neither of those are your typical sexual abuse cases, however. A typical case involves an overage boyfriend and a teenage girlfriend, or a creepy uncle with roaming hands who does not penetrate the victim.
NO! that is not a pedophile! It is having sex and or sexual urges towards a PREPUBESCENT child. The whole older boyfriend thing is not pedophilia.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: California
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All of the above. Each of the things you mention harm a child.
You would kill someone for "looking at kiddie porn"? Geeze, hope you never get a virus on your comp
But seriously, you are stupid if you think people should be put to death for that. And inappropriate touching? Are you fracking kidding me? You can't even PROVE that crap, it's all he said/she said. Rape is different, it leave evidence. But I still don't want to be putting people to death since we make mistakes about things all the time.

Your "zero tolerance ... think of the children" mindset is staggeringly out of touch with reality.

And like the other poster said, it's not just sexual stuff that hurts kids. Emotional abuse does more harm to more kids I would think. Should we kill those folks too?
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:37 PM
 
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if a pedophile re-offends he has taken yet another child to the depths of hell
Very dramatic. Define "depths of hell".

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NO! that is not a pedophile! It is having sex and or sexual urges towards a PREPUBESCENT child. The whole older boyfriend thing is not pedophilia.
I'm glad you see it that way. Many on this forum start yelling "child rape" if there's a news story about an 18-year-old having sex with a 17-year-old.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:38 PM
 
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I'm sorry. I'm not a mind-reader. I interpreted a "huge with something extra" as a hug where an adult gropes a child in a sexual manner. In my opinion, that would not merit the death penalty.
So should we wait for them to rape them? Would that be better? I am asking you this not to be snarky but because I want to attempt to make a point.

Would you ever grope a child in a sexual manor? I am pretty sure the answer is going to be no. Normal people do not do this. It is the start, it is the beginning. It needs to be stooped before it gets to rape.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:39 PM
 
Location: The Lakes Region
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Under normal circumstances I agree 110% but when it comes to sexually abusing a child I have ZERO tolerance and will never apologize for that. I would gladly shot a pedophile without a second thought! Slam me if you want but that is how I feel.


My stepfather was a pedophile so I will help you shoot them........They deserve it......
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:40 PM
 
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In any remotely sane person's opinion.

See now we were having a perfectly good debate and you have to insinuate that I am not sane. Way to to go sparky.
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