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Maybe it's time people in the US saw the wood for the trees -- insurance companies ARE as good as evil, as far as I'm concerned. We have allowed them to profiteer from our illnesses and literally get away with murder for too long. Maybe calling them "evil" is a tad dramatic, but perhaps we should begin to think along those lines, instead of being blissfully ignorant, or so brainwashed into thinking that a gov't run system will turn us into the new Soviet Union that we are simply too afraid of change, thus allowing these ruthless and predatory corporations to continue to milk us dry.
The free market isn't the solution to everything and our "for profit" system is living proof of that. Other countries manage to provide healthcare to ALL of their citizens, but at a fraction of the cost.
Keep resisting change and keep believing the propaganda about UHC in other countries all you want, but just pray (and I mean pray) that you, or someone you love doesn't fall victim to our wonderful "for profit" healthcare system.
There are hundreds of ways to make money in this country and there always will be, but I find the profiteering from sickness a little "sick" (pun intended).
Wow...there is a little tiny bit more info they base their studies on...
health status, health ressourses and utilization of...Including: Life expectancy, Maternal and infant mortality, Health employment, In-patient beds, Medical technology, Immunisation, Average length of stay, Discharges, Surgical procedures, and Transplants and dialyses.
Indicators on Health expenditure include Total expenditure on health, prevention and public health,,, on in-patient care, out-patient care, home care etc etc....
Consumption of pharmaceuticals in considered...
Demographics and economics are also looked at...
We pay the most money for a piece of garbage and have the least amount of people covered.
And yes,,, Americans do travel for care...the ones who can afford it.
Again, they are leading questions. They are coming to the conclusions they decided to come to.
Is America's health care system perfect? Absolutely not! Is it going to improve by the government taking it over? Pffffttttt... Yeah, like everything else the government has improved.
Maybe it's time people in the US saw the wood for the trees -- insurance companies ARE as good as evil, as far as I'm concerned. We have allowed them to profiteer from our illnesses and literally get away with murder for too long. Maybe calling them "evil" is a tad dramatic, but perhaps we should begin to think along those lines, instead of being blissfully ignorant, or so brainwashed into thinking that a gov't run system will turn us into the new Soviet Union that we are simply too afraid of change, thus allowing these ruthless and predatory corporations to continue to milk us dry.
The free market isn't the solution to everything and our "for profit" system is living proof of that. Other countries manage to provide healthcare to ALL of their citizens, but at a fraction of the cost.
Keep resisting change and keep believing the propaganda about UHC in other countries all you want, but just pray (and I mean pray) that you, or someone you love doesn't fall victim to our wonderful "for profit" healthcare system.
There are hundreds of ways to make money in this country and there always will be, but I find the profiteering from sickness a little "sick" (pun intended).
Personally, I find it sickening that you have morbidly obese people, who absolutely REFUSE to slide back from the trough and exercise, who expect a medical health care system to do for them what they REFUSE to do for themselves.
We spend hundreds of billions of dollars per year, on medical expenses, just because people are fat and lazy. Believe it or not, that affects EVERYBODY. And if you think that's going to change by the government taking it over, you are sorely mistaken. It'll just be worse.
How do you know I've "never suffered under the system"?
Now... Give me some examples of private industries that have been taken over by the government, and actually improved.
Because you haven't. If you did you'd be whistling a different tune, for sure.
Now, I did state that the gov may not be the correct approach to a one payer system, but It might work with all 50 states on board to create a non profit one payer system only, not a socialist mecca. The more people involved the more risk can be spread. It is the only way it's going to work.
By the why, the government does do somethings correctly.
I am AMAZED that all of you "pro socialist healthcare" people have absolutely refused to touch any of the REAL talking points about the medical system.
Why won't ANY of you talk honestly about...
- The problem of morbid obesity in America, and the hundreds of billions of dollars it costs Americans yearly. In 1997, NHIS found that there were over $78 billion in medical costs that were directly attributable to obesity. That figure is not estimated to be at least $150 billion per year, and account for nearly 10% of all medical costs!
- Medical malpractice, and the need to cap pain & suffering and punitive awards. These too cost Americans hundreds of billions of dollars per year.
- Hypochondriacs who virtually live in doctors' clinics and hospitals, though there is virtually nothing wrong with them. How many hundreds of millions of dollars does THIS cost Americans every year?
- The FACT that there are NOT 50 million Americans without health care. That is an absolute lie.
Come on folks, you need to bring more than complaints and demonization to the table!
Sorry, but you've just destroyed all your credibility.
You have no idea. Absolutely none.
I don't care if I destroyed my credibility with you, cause you don't have a clue. If the system grabbed you by the nuts and squeezed, then did it again at the expense of your wife's health and then tried like hell to do it a third time, how many times does one need to be racked before realizing that this system is severely flawed, poised to squeeze you some more? It took me twice and that was that, I'm through with them. I'm not going to wait for the forth attack.
So why on earth are you supporting this mess if you in-fact have been run over by this system? Because you've not been squeezed by this system yet, that's why. I'm not talking about just high rates, I'm not talking about lapses in coverage, I'm talking about denial of health care to my sick wife who was fully covered.
As Mr. Rocks supports his viewpoints with name-calling rather than data--he used stupidly" and "idiot" in his response to me, I suspect any further dialogue with him is pointless.
He seems to think the 50 million uninsured Americans all are morbidly obese, eat like pigs and are solely responsible for the high cost of our insurance. And that we have the very best health care in the entire world, bar none--despite the 50 million with no insurance. Period.
I don't care if I destroyed my credibility with you, cause you don't have a clue. If the system grabbed you by the nuts and squeezed, then did it again at the expense of your wife's health and then tried like hell to do it a third time, how many times does one need to be racked before realizing that this system is severely flawed, poised to squeeze you some more? It took me twice and that was that, I'm through with them. I'm not going to wait for the forth attack.
So why on earth are you supporting this mess if you in-fact have been run over by this system? Because you've not been squeezed by this system yet, that's why. I'm not talking about just high rates, I'm not talking about lapses in coverage, I'm talking about denial of health care to my sick wife who was fully covered.
Yeah, everyone in my family has always been perfectly healthy. I've never had to pay out anything for medical. On and on and on.
The fact that somebody doesn't agree with your hyperbole doesn't mean they don't have a clue.
Yeah, everyone in my family has always been perfectly healthy. I've never had to pay out anything for medical. On and on and on.
The fact that somebody doesn't agree with your hyperbole doesn't mean they don't have a clue.
Hey read this carefully, It's not hyperbole it is a fact. I used to be comfy just like you. Great benefits at great prices from a great big large all American corporation then someone got sick, really sick and that was the end of that. It took 4 years to to lose that perk, in which 3 insurance companies pushed my wife aside because of her condition. Now, if she had cancer instead of this incurable desease, she may have been better off, and that aint no hyperbole that's a fact and it's pathetic and needs to end now.
Now Obama Rocks, if you've got money invested with these scumbags I would suggest you pull your cash and invest in a company that actually makes something unlike insurance companies that make nothing. Apple computer is my advice.
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