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Old 08-03-2009, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Over There
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That would be the one. Took a bunch of insurance-less 9-11 rescue workers down there and they were treated and sent home with free meds and treatment plans.
Wait so I am suppose to believe that a country where the leader keeps most of the country in poverty has better heath-care then here? Really? hmmmmmm I think NOT!!!
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Wait so I am suppose to believe that a country where the leader keeps most of the country in poverty has better heath-care then here? Really? hmmmmmm I think NOT!!!
No, simply believing is lame. You ought to try it.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Wait so I am suppose to believe that a country where the leader keeps most of the country in poverty has better heath-care then here? Really? hmmmmmm I think NOT!!!
Watch that part of the film ... just that part ... it won't kill you. Seeing the Cuban doctors be able to treat patients without having to run it by an insurance wonk ... these folks were treated for free ... scans .. free ... bloodwork ... free ... meds ... close to free. One of the 9-11 workers was able to procure inhalers that cost her $120 out of pocket in the states for a nickle a piece ... it's no surprise that these 9-11 rescue workers were in TEARS when they left. They were just happy that someone was willing to listen to them and treat them with the respect and care that they deserved.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Watch that part of the film ... just that part ... it won't kill you. Seeing the Cuban doctors be able to treat patients without having to run it by an insurance wonk ... these folks were treated for free ... scans .. free ... bloodwork ... free ... meds ... close to free. One of the 9-11 workers was able to procure inhalers that cost her $120 out of pocket in the states for a nickle a piece ... it's no surprise that these 9-11 rescue workers were in TEARS when they left. They were just happy that someone was willing to listen to them and treat them with the respect and care that they deserved.

"Sicko" Presents False View of Cuba's Health System

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Under the Cuban government's health care monopoly, the state assumes complete control. Private, non-governmental health facilities, where ailing citizens could buy treatment, are illegal.7 As a result, average Cubans suffer long waits at government hospitals, while many services and technologies are available only to the Cuban party elite and foreign "health tourists" who pay with hard currency. Moreover, access to such rudimentary medicines as antibiotics and Aspirin can be limited, and there are reports that citizens excluded from the foreign-only hospitals often must bring their own bed sheets and blankets while in care.8
Says Canada's National Post, which assessed Cuba and its health system in a three-part series:
Even the most commonly available pharmaceutical items in the U.S., such as Aspirin and rubbing alcohol, are conspicuously absent [in Cuba]... Antibiotics... are in extremely short supply and available only on the black market. Aspirin can be purchased only at government-run dollar stores, which carry common medications at a huge markup in U.S. dollars... This puts them out of reach of most Cubans, who are paid little and in pesos.11

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Old 08-03-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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That would be the one. Took a bunch of insurance-less 9-11 rescue workers down there and they were treated and sent home with free meds and treatment plans.
Boy what a stunt that was. Still, the inhaler scene was very moving...I really felt for those people.
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Rush Limbaugh said that we have the best health care system in the world and no change or overhaul is needed. Now, I am confused!
Rush Limbaugh makes millions of dollars a year and has no clue what it's like to be middle class today. Which is why he sees no need for health care overhaul. It's easy to say things are sunny when you're sitting above the clouds.

I stopped being confused when I realized that 90% of his show was BS and a waste of my time. Haven't taken the man seriously since. And my life is much happier without the doom and gloom thank you.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Hey, I've read those asinine reports that America has worse health care than 3rd world countries, and they're garbage. Pure garbage. Nobody flies from the United States to Ghana for medical procedures.

Also, you are entitled to your OPINION that American Health Care is corrupt and dysfunctional. But have the honesty and humility to admit that it's your OPINION.
I question your objectivity and, though you may have answered this somewhere else in the thread, i've yet to hear from you what role you play in the medical "industry" as you call it ... and it sure is an industry and it sure does display some of the worst characteristics of capitalism. It's sick.
And if you don't see it and yet you do profit in and from this industry, i can understand why you would not want to or not be able to admit to the corruption and heartlessness of the current system.
I certainly don't know the best way to address the problems of health care in this country but if you can't admit that there are huge problems, i think it is you that is lacking in honesty and from the tone of your posts you definitely do not seem to me to be a humble man.
There are many opinions about how to address the problems but no, it's not my opinion that the current system stinks and that it is indeed rife with merciless and money-mongering tactics to deny people health insurance and to deny them needed treatments if they already have that insurance and it's all for and all about profit.
Even the most hard hearted and hard assed among you should at least have the balls to admit that it stinks.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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I thought this was another thread about Glen Beck.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:42 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Hey, I've read those asinine reports that America has worse health care than 3rd world countries, and they're garbage. Pure garbage. Nobody flies from the United States to Ghana for medical procedures.

Also, you are entitled to your OPINION that American Health Care is corrupt and dysfunctional. But have the honesty and humility to admit that it's your OPINION.
Who on earth would fly to Ghana for health care? I'd fly to France and get a good vacation to boot.

But you know, I heard Rush Limbaugh say almost that exact same thing the other day. Something tells me you're just parroting what you heard on the radio.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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Who on earth would fly to Ghana for health care? I'd fly to France and get a good vacation to boot.

But you know, I heard Rush Limbaugh say almost that exact same thing the other day. Something tells me you're just parroting what you heard on the radio.
There are a lot of people who fly to Thailand, China, Mexico & India to get procedures done ... they're called medical vacations, or something to that effect. Most doctors in those countries were trained here, their educations paid for by their governments.
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