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The whole rock star hype and the messiah-worship atmosphere surrounding him kind of creeps me out. Nohting that he's specifically done....it just makes me nervous to see people gush over him.
It's the second resurection of Christ. Before the world ends he wants
to take in some fishing. So he gets his friend Moses and they head up
to Minnesota to fish. They are about to rent a canoe when Moses says:
"Jesus, can't you still walk on water? Why not just walk out there?"
So Jesus takes his reel and tackle and steps onto the lake....and falls
knee deep in water.
Moses says, "Well....maybe you need a head start or something, why not
go to the end of the dock and try."
So Jesus takes his reel and tackle and steps off the end of the dock and
falls up to his waist.
Moses says, " Well why not rent the boat, go out to the center of the
lake and try there."
So they rent the boat and go to the middle of the lake, Jesus is about
to step off and try again when...
Moses says, "Wait. Just to be safe, why not get yourself into the state
of mind you were in the first time you did it."
So Jesus sets down, meditates for a few minutes, and finally he's all
psyched up, and steps out of the canoe.... ..and precedes to drown.
So Moses does the water parting thing, and pulls Jesus up into the boat.
Jesus is just beating himself up over this. He just doesn't see what's
going wrong here. Moses just stares down at the bottom of the boat.
Suddenly, Moses says, "I got it! I know what's wrong! Did you have those
holes in your feet last time?!?!"
So... If you mis-translate greek to english, and then translate the english to hebrew making a conjugation error, you get something which sounds (to an english speaker) kind-of like the name of the current president of the US. Therefore, he's the antichrist.
I'll just point out (in an attempt to work in something vaguely on-topic) that mathematically, this really isn't surprising at all. It's basically exactly the same as my usual critique of gematria-type stuff. There are a finite number of phonemes in human languages. Almost any combination of phonemes that you can imagine is a word in some language. [...]
You're not working forwards, looking for what's there. You've got a result that you want, and you're working backwards from it. You've got a name, like "Barak Obama", and you want to make an argument that he's the antichrist. So you try to find some way that you could translate something close to those phonemes into something from the texts that purport to speak about the antichrist. It would be surprising if you couldn't. There's no shortage of passages in the bible, and for many of the fundies, they see a huge number of them as being, in some way, about the antichrist.
Let me show you an example. I'm going to "prove" that I am the antichrist.
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Please don't think that all Christians are like that.
That's what my father keep telling me when I mention the likes of you...
kdbrich, quote: "Nohting that he's specifically done....it just makes me nervous to see people gush over him."
You mean, as Christians do with the imaginary Jesus Christ?
St. Ronnie = Ronald Reagan
Shrub = Bush.
Both tried to ram, without first warming the Vaseline, certain Christian ideas into the American body politic. Public prayer, the teaching of Creationism, the denial of knowledge. Of course, the Christian part of that body liked this sort of behavior.
Political Observation: The ascendant New Republican Party, still in its infancy, having realized the negative effect of association with the shrinking, shrieking Christian fringe, will divorce itself from any future association with them. If they want to have any hope of survival in an educated world.
The Christians will have to form a new party as they have in Europe, with a literal tie-in to God in their new title. Such as "The Conservative Christian Coalition" or somesuch. Which will be their deathknell.
The New Rep party will, I predict, become more of a libertarian association. Thank heavens.
The New Rep party will, I predict, become more of a libertarian association. Thank heavens.
I sure hope so, so long as they get rid of the "neo-Cons" at the same time. They're nothing but Democrats in an elephant's skin.
One last thing, I will argue that the undue influence of the Religious Right was more of Bush 1's doing than Reagan. It was Bush 1 who came up with the whole "we're the party of family values" garbage. No doubt that the Religious Right supported Reagan, but he did very little in the way pushing their religious agenda. In fact, the Religious Right and the "Moral Majority" was always concerned that Reagan would not push their agenda...and with good reason. Reagan was all about economics and very hand's off concerning social issues. Unfortunately, the unsupported claims of his pandering to the Religious Right has become a bit of mythology.
First off, Fullback, I apologize about lumping Ron in with the Bushie boys and their hijinks. I agree with you; I actually liked Ronnie; he at least came across as semi-honest, and his philosophies were well thought out. Accordingly, his growing positive influence on the thinkers and doers within the American public deeply scared the socialists whose system requires a sheep-like public.
The current "Cash for Clunkers" progam is a fine example of socialism run amok. As some politician recently said: throwing $50 bills out the door of a helicopter over Chicago would also be popular, but would'nt be very fair or productive."
Oh well; no-one said thinking was a prerequisite for membership in the human race.
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You've got that right, Asheviile Native. I'm quite sure Shrub II commiserated with his God about going into Iraq to find and smite the devil incarnate! So far, how many American sons and daughters have lost their lives to this criminal act? Not to mention those who will while away their remaining days in a veteran's hospital, with tubes in and out of their various orifices?
God is truly great....
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