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Old 08-04-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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For 8 years the neo cons raped and pillaged this country.

They cynically used the national tragedy of 9/11 to shred the constitution ...systematically giving more and more unquestioned power to the administrative branch while intimidating the congress and the press into silent compliance.

They lied us into an unneccessary war with Iraq that turned into a scheme to pour money into Cheney's company, Haliburton while pouring our soldier's blood and the blood of Iraqi citizens into the sand.

They took away the regulations from banks, insurance companies, and investment companies at the behest of long time Bush friends turned lobbyist. This led to the destruction of the U.S. economy and that of most of the rest of the world.

They provided their corporate friends with enormous tax incentives to move jobs previously held by U.S. citizens out of the country and into countries where people will basically work for food. Surprisingly, this led to growing unemployment and even more to no jobs remaining for working people except minimum wages with which they can not support their families.

They gave their rich friends enormous tax breaks while piling more and more of the responsibility for funding the government on the backs of the ever shrinking middle class.

They came to power with a huge surplus and left power with the country so deep in debt that we may never get out.

And now....having torn the country down and sold it off for parts...they are still not satisfied.

Their lobbyist are paying off our wicked, greedy representatives to continue the destruction.

They are training thugs to go out to town hall meetings and intiminidate those few who have refused to be bought. They are turning one of the most basic things in a democracy....the ability of normal citizens to talk with their representatives....into nothing but another cynical ploy by the neo con to control by intimidation...while drowning out the voices of citizens other than the thugs.

They are spreading lies and propoganda to the gullible to convince these poor people to once again vote against and fight agains their own best interest.
They are convincing these people that having affordable health care that is based upon HEALTH and not the WEALTH of the insurance companies is a bad thing. You would think that no one would fall for this obvious spinning by the insurance companies....you would be wrong.

And, if nothing else works, they are stirring up the most base nature in those who fear anyone not exactly like them. They are appealing to the inner racist to convince them that no black man could possibly be the president. They are attempting to overthrow the elected will of the people by trying to undo the election with their lies about the president's very citizenship. How vile.

The neo cons are destroying this country. They have us on the ropes and they are trying to spin it so people will actually believe that it wasn't their 8 years of destruction that caused the problems. No, they want people to actually believe that everything was hunky dory before the election and that it was only in the past 6 months that everything went to h*ll.

Are we going to let this cyncial, greedy bunch completely destroy this country?

How stupid do they think we are?

How stupid are we?
Neocons? Yes

Conservatives? No

You should differentiate before you break bad with your broad stroke. But while we're broadstroking, you wouldn't have those opinions if you hadn't been fed such by the liberal media. Most conservatives are in no way affiliated with the crap you have been forced to consume.

That sh*t sandwich HuffPo and MSNBC fed you is stinking up the room. Go take a shower. I promise you'll feel better.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IMHO the OP said it well. We are now trying to recover from an economic mega disaster. It is taking time and the remnant neocons are trying to prevent it so they can continue their tyranny. Far too much money is on the line to allow the US to function as a Republic and not an Empire with one supreme leader. Just ask Cheney and Halliburton for their opinion.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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We are now trying to recover from an economic mega disaster.
Of course, you have no statistics to back up that assertion.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by LML View Post
For 8 years the neo cons raped and pillaged this country.

They cynically used the national tragedy of 9/11 to shred the constitution ...systematically giving more and more unquestioned power to the administrative branch while intimidating the congress and the press into silent compliance.

They lied us into an unneccessary war with Iraq that turned into a scheme to pour money into Cheney's company, Haliburton while pouring our soldier's blood and the blood of Iraqi citizens into the sand.

They took away the regulations from banks, insurance companies, and investment companies at the behest of long time Bush friends turned lobbyist. This led to the destruction of the U.S. economy and that of most of the rest of the world.

They provided their corporate friends with enormous tax incentives to move jobs previously held by U.S. citizens out of the country and into countries where people will basically work for food. Surprisingly, this led to growing unemployment and even more to no jobs remaining for working people except minimum wages with which they can not support their families.

They gave their rich friends enormous tax breaks while piling more and more of the responsibility for funding the government on the backs of the ever shrinking middle class.

They came to power with a huge surplus and left power with the country so deep in debt that we may never get out.

And now....having torn the country down and sold it off for parts...they are still not satisfied.

Their lobbyist are paying off our wicked, greedy representatives to continue the destruction.

They are training thugs to go out to town hall meetings and intiminidate those few who have refused to be bought. They are turning one of the most basic things in a democracy....the ability of normal citizens to talk with their representatives....into nothing but another cynical ploy by the neo con to control by intimidation...while drowning out the voices of citizens other than the thugs.

They are spreading lies and propoganda to the gullible to convince these poor people to once again vote against and fight agains their own best interest.
They are convincing these people that having affordable health care that is based upon HEALTH and not the WEALTH of the insurance companies is a bad thing. You would think that no one would fall for this obvious spinning by the insurance companies....you would be wrong.

And, if nothing else works, they are stirring up the most base nature in those who fear anyone not exactly like them. They are appealing to the inner racist to convince them that no black man could possibly be the president. They are attempting to overthrow the elected will of the people by trying to undo the election with their lies about the president's very citizenship. How vile.

The neo cons are destroying this country. They have us on the ropes and they are trying to spin it so people will actually believe that it wasn't their 8 years of destruction that caused the problems. No, they want people to actually believe that everything was hunky dory before the election and that it was only in the past 6 months that everything went to h*ll.

Are we going to let this cyncial, greedy bunch completely destroy this country?

How stupid do they think we are?

How stupid are we?
Considering that the majority of your post is filled with out of context and half truth claims, well...

I won't go as far as to say "stupid", but gullible, naive, and easily manipulated does come to mind.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:29 AM
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Location: Wisconsin
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100% what you said

By the way, its so fascinating that the Republicans mistake an intelligent analysis as a "rant"

Yeah, I've noticed that those who think that calling the president Nobama and his supporters Obamatrons equates to witty, insightful speech are the ones that feel my post is a rant and analyze it by saying "blah, blah" and calling me a commie. I consider their dislike of what I say as a high honor indeed.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: south Missouri
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Yea, the Democrats are so much better, .


















OK, one more, .


In all truth, yes, they are. Republicans have always been out for the rich not for the poor.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:31 AM
LML LML started this thread
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Neocons? Yes

Conservatives? No

You should differentiate before you break bad with your broad stroke. But while we're broadstroking, you wouldn't have those opinions if you hadn't been fed such by the liberal media. Most conservatives are in no way affiliated with the crap you have been forced to consume.

That sh*t sandwich HuffPo and MSNBC fed you is stinking up the room. Go take a shower. I promise you'll feel better.

Did it even occur to you that I NEVER used the term Conservative for that very reason??????
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Yeah, I've noticed that those who think that calling the president Nobama and his supporters Obamatrons equates to witty, insightful speech are the ones that feel my post is a rant and analyze it by saying "blah, blah" and calling me a commie. I consider their dislike of what I say as a high honor indeed.
Wouldn't YOUR way of calling people names be in the same vein???

The use of 'neo-cons' for example....

Perhaps you should examine your own hatred first?
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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In all truth, yes, they are. Republicans have always been out for the rich not for the poor.
Neither party is "for the poor." They are all rich, and, out for themselves.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:38 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
5,465 posts, read 12,204,366 times
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Originally Posted by LML View Post
For 8 years the neo cons raped and pillaged this country.

They cynically used the national tragedy of 9/11 to shred the constitution ...systematically giving more and more unquestioned power to the administrative branch while intimidating the congress and the press into silent compliance.

They lied us into an unneccessary war with Iraq that turned into a scheme to pour money into Cheney's company, Haliburton while pouring our soldier's blood and the blood of Iraqi citizens into the sand.

They took away the regulations from banks, insurance companies, and investment companies at the behest of long time Bush friends turned lobbyist. This led to the destruction of the U.S. economy and that of most of the rest of the world.

They provided their corporate friends with enormous tax incentives to move jobs previously held by U.S. citizens out of the country and into countries where people will basically work for food. Surprisingly, this led to growing unemployment and even more to no jobs remaining for working people except minimum wages with which they can not support their families.

They gave their rich friends enormous tax breaks while piling more and more of the responsibility for funding the government on the backs of the ever shrinking middle class.

They came to power with a huge surplus and left power with the country so deep in debt that we may never get out.

And now....having torn the country down and sold it off for parts...they are still not satisfied.

Their lobbyist are paying off our wicked, greedy representatives to continue the destruction.

They are training thugs to go out to town hall meetings and intiminidate those few who have refused to be bought. They are turning one of the most basic things in a democracy....the ability of normal citizens to talk with their representatives....into nothing but another cynical ploy by the neo con to control by intimidation...while drowning out the voices of citizens other than the thugs.

They are spreading lies and propoganda to the gullible to convince these poor people to once again vote against and fight agains their own best interest.
They are convincing these people that having affordable health care that is based upon HEALTH and not the WEALTH of the insurance companies is a bad thing. You would think that no one would fall for this obvious spinning by the insurance companies....you would be wrong.

And, if nothing else works, they are stirring up the most base nature in those who fear anyone not exactly like them. They are appealing to the inner racist to convince them that no black man could possibly be the president. They are attempting to overthrow the elected will of the people by trying to undo the election with their lies about the president's very citizenship. How vile.

The neo cons are destroying this country. They have us on the ropes and they are trying to spin it so people will actually believe that it wasn't their 8 years of destruction that caused the problems. No, they want people to actually believe that everything was hunky dory before the election and that it was only in the past 6 months that everything went to h*ll.

Are we going to let this cyncial, greedy bunch completely destroy this country?

How stupid do they think we are?

How stupid are we?
How are the neocons destroying the country when the democrats have the majority in the House, Senate, and there is a deomcratic President? How are neocons destroying the country when the epicenter for the recession was the housing market, linked over and over to the Fannie/Freddie debacle, headed by Barney Frank and company? GOP is a non issue. Neocons are a non issue. Conservatives are a non issue. The right has proposed plans and ideas regarding the stimulus, cap and trade, and healthcare which have been disregarded by the left, if not left out of the legislative drafting process altogether. Abortion is legal. Society is more tolerant to "alternative lifestyles." Any simple display of the Nativity scene during Christmas or a cross during Easter causes a huge backlash from the left. We aren't drilling off our own land, we're shipping all those nasty, environmentally hazardous manufacturing jobs overseas, and we're being diplomatic and nice with Hamas and the Taliban.

From what I can see, neocons don't have the power to do anything but disagree with the liberal agenda, and if that threatens you, then that sounds like a personal issue. When the left demostrates by chaining themselves to trees and splattering blood on animals to protest meat eaters or whatever, it's progressive. When citizens voice their disagreement with cap and trade or healthcare reform at town hall meetings, they're considered "whacked out" or "unpatriotic" or " not wanting progress." The left does not have a monopoly on protests, it's just that the right is so busy with, you know, working at our jobs, that we ususally don't have time for this. No more. They're speaking up. It's about time.

Bottom line: Your side won. The direction of the country and its policies are not those of the "neocons." If you believe the destruction of government is underway, I suggest you look in your own backyard for the source.
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