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Old 08-05-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by Greatday View Post
Agreed.

However, the term "Ms" is also legally correct.
Feminists like to use that word; that's why I never use it.

I use "Miss" for an unmarried woman and "Mrs" for one who is married... just like it used to be about 50 years ago when things were normal!
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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TomDot pretends to be conservative.
I guess you consider yourself to be the keeper of that flame and judge of who is and who isn't "conservative"
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:14 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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That is freedom of speech just like how conservatives like to say

"Obama is scum. Obama is a socialist. He is a terrorist Muslim. He is ruining our country. *wah wah wah* He is racist. He wants granny to die."

Blah blah blah.
Not the same thing, mister.

Besides, no one called Obama a terrorist. He is however (or was, maybe still is) a Muslim, he made certain terrorists his friends (at least one that we know of, William Ayers, but according to his own book, there were probably others), and he (again, from his book) was an admirer of Marx, and he hung out with Marxists. His policies are socialist.

I would say he is a scum bag, and a slime ball (those are simply adjectives, and it is not libelous or slanderous).

But what they have done to Sarah Palin is very definitely slander; making up stories that are untrue about her, her family, etc., etc., for the sole purpose of damaging her politically.

If you cannot see the difference here, perhaps you need to go back to school. The difference is obvious.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
Feminists like to use that word; that's why I never use it.

I use "Miss" for an unmarried woman and "Mrs" for one who is married... just like it used to be about 50 years ago when things were normal!
what if you don't know if a woman you're addressing is married or unmarried?

"ms." is a practical term in that case.

anyway i am a feminist (gasp!) and i don't see why women should have to advertise their marital status via their term of address if they don't want to. if they want to (like palin does), good for them. if they don't, they have an option. i don't see why it should concern you.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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You're really worried about a blogger?

I'm fine with that type of free speech. People should be allowed to say whatever they want to say as long as it doesn't endanger others (like yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater).
That isn't the kind of free speech that is protected by the Constitution, and it is libelous. It is being done with malice, and it is vicious, and it is evil. These people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Bet you like the so-called "hate crimes" bill. Could we not say that this kind of speech is "hate speech"? I'm not for "thought police" and the idea of "hate crimes" legislation opens the door to such things, but I mention this because of your statement above. Seems there are inconsistencies in what people will allow from one group or individual, but not allow from another.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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But what they have done to Sarah Palin is very definitely slander; making up stories that are untrue about her, her family, etc., etc., for the sole purpose of damaging her politically.
you don't think the allegations that obama doesn't qualify for the presidency might damage him politically?

and how does an untrue rumor of divorce damage her politically? some people believed it for a few hours, after she denied it a few people still thought she was lying, a few days later it's completely died down.

if she and todd aren't divorced within a month or so, the rumor is proven absolutely false.

how did this rumor damage her politically? how could it have conceivably damaged her politically?

she has every right to sue, but it is not likely that she will win. i could see her suing successfully over the trig rumors before the divorce ones.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:25 PM
 
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Palin's lawyer and I want every one of these bloggers taken through long, lengthy trials. A separate trial for each one. Every single one who dares to type the least negative inference about Sarah or her family. They surely number in the thousands, and more every day...

It's easy to bully bloggers, but you know, the "liberal mainstream media" have published some snippy comments about Sarah too. Let's take on CBS....ABC....NBC....even Faux wasnt always obsequious. Them too, the two-faced bastards!

So hock those worthless college bonds and send your donations NOW to Sarah's Pay My Lawyer Fund!
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Poor Sarah. Pleaseeeee stop picking on her.



You know what? You are right. I can't stand Palin at all either but I was a bit upset over hearing that someone spread lies about her and her husband divorcing.

That was downright uncalled for and not needed. Bash her politics. Not her marriage. I would be so offended if someone spread a lie that me and partner were no longer together, let alone divorcing!

That was uncalled for completely. Pick on her politics-not her family.
There is nothing wrong with Palins politics. She is a conservative. There is nothing wrong with conservatism. It is what our country has been for most of it's history, and what has made us the greatest and richest country in the world (conservatism and capitalism). So-called "liberalism" is what is destroying America. But that's the subject of another thread.
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Slander and libel? Where does that rate with you?

Sounds to me like you want "convenient freedom of speech".
That's exactly it, and the double standard is typical of "liberals" (progressives, a.k.a. socialists)
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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you don't think the allegations that obama doesn't qualify for the presidency might damage him politically?

and how does an untrue rumor of divorce damage her politically? some people believed it for a few hours, after she denied it a few people still thought she was lying, a few days later it's completely died down.

if she and todd aren't divorced within a month or so, the rumor is proven absolutely false.

how did this rumor damage her politically? how could it have conceivably damaged her politically?

she has every right to sue, but it is not likely that she will win. i could see her suing successfully over the trig rumors before the divorce ones.
It doesn't.

Nononsenseguy does not understand the definition of libel. It has nothing to do with "malicious" or "evil." Libel is misrepresentation of the truth that causes damage to the libelled person. Sarah Palin clearly was not libelled. No damage has been done.
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