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Old 08-05-2009, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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He has been a puppet for Nancy Pelosi, up to this point. They are out of touch with the American people, both liberal and conservative. As if they have their own agenda, and are not listening, to those of us that elected them.
That is true, 0bama is not having his administration write legislation, he just hands it all over to the politics of the senate and congress, and then he goes on the road pushing whatever they came up with. At most he gives an abridged version from the back cover of a Cliff Notes for Senate Bills book.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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The sad thing is that our first African American president is such a disappointment and such a typical politician. We could have chosen so many more qualified than what we got. My family was all in support of him until recently and they finally let me come back to the table.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:20 PM
 
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none too happy with bambam. This fall's governors race should be interesting.

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I recall the President explaining earlier this year that changing the government is like changing the direction of a cruise line, it's a slow turn. He has only been in office for a little over six months and with very little support from the Republicans. Plus, there will always be those, especially those who resent the President being in office that will rush out to criticize or who are just impatient. I just hope that most Americans are not as foolish to repeat the past eight years by hopping from the pot back into the frying pan.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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The sad thing is that our first African American president is such a disappointment and such a typical politician. We could have chosen so many more qualified than what we got. My family was all in support of him until recently and they finally let me come back to the table.

Let's just be honest, there were some White voters who only voted for the President because they saw him as a superior choice over McCain especially after Bush. If there had been a younger and more qualified white male, Obama would not be President.

It's too soon to be disappointed and I'm far from being disappointed at this point.

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Old 08-05-2009, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I recall the President explaining earlier this year that changing the government is like changing the direction of a cruise line, it's a slow turn. He has only been in office for a little over six months and with very little support from the Republicans. Plus, there will always be those, especially those who resent the President being in office that will rush out to criticize or who are just impatient. I just hope that most Americans are not as foolish to repeat the past eight years by hopping from the pot back into the frying pan.

Some folks just don't get the fact that the Dems have bullet proof majorities in both houses of Congress. Obama doesn't need Republican support. The real irony is he isn't getting Dem support. Their plan for a Dem majority included running conservative Dems in Republican leaning districts. Guess what many of them won, but what happened when they got to Washington? They refused to be steam rolled, they are damed if they do damned if they don't. They will either be targeted by the loony left if they don't tilt left or they will be tossed out of office by the voters if they do. It will be interesting in 2010!

So to sum up, any failures are the failures of the Dems. The Republicans are spectators at this point.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:33 PM
 
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Some folks just don't get the fact that the Dems have bullet proof majorities in both houses of Congress. Obama doesn't need Republican support. The real irony is he isn't getting Dem support. Their plan for a Dem majority included running conservative Dems in Republican leaning districts. Guess what many of them won, but what happened when they got to Washington? They refused to be steam rolled, they are damed if they do damned if they don't. They will either be targeted by the loony left if they don't tilt left or they will be tossed out of office by the voters if they do. It will be interesting in 2010!

So to sum up, any failures are the failures of the Dems. The Republicans are spectators at this point.
What I do get is that you have the Blue Dog Democrats (another Conservative Party within the Democrats) with similar views as the Republicans Party (a trojan horse in my opinion). Of course there is going to be infighting when viewpoints are different. I don't know the history of the Blue Dog, so maybe the Democrats plan back fired, I will have to research it.

However, it's not about the Republicans or Democrats, but the American people and what's best for the country. Views on what's best for the country is different, but the Republican was in the driver seat for eight years and we saw the results. The fear protesting needs to stop and allow the President the opportunity to implement CHANGE. Personally, my choice would be to get rid of all the members of the House and Congress, keeping the President. They have been getting fat at our expense for to long.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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My family was all in support of him until recently and they finally let me come back to the table.
Do they now realize he is NOT the man they thought he was? What has disappointed them most - his total fabrication of a post-partisan kinda guy? The horrific spending spree? The politics as usual in and out of the WH?
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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What I do get is that you have the Blue Dog Democrats (another Conservative Party within the Democrats) with similar views as the Republicans Party (a trojan horse in my opinion). Of course there is going to be infighting when viewpoints are different. I don't know the history of the Blue Dog, so maybe the Democrats plan back fired, I will have to research it.

However, it's not about the Republicans or Democrats, but the American people and what's best for the country. Views on what's best for the country is different, but the Republican was in the driver seat for eight years and we saw the results. The fear protesting needs to stop and allow the President the opportunity to implement CHANGE. Personally, my choice would be to get rid of all the members of the House and Congress, keeping the President. They have been getting fat at our expense for to long.

Because the priorities of the previous congress were different than the current one doesn't mean they weren't doing anything. Did you happen to notice the Medicare drug benefit for seniors started under bush?

The Republicans and people who disagree with the administration have a responsiblity to make themselves heard. This is citizenship 101.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I recall the President explaining earlier this year that changing the government is like changing the direction of a cruise line, it's a slow turn. He has only been in office for a little over six months and with very little support from the Republicans.
Why would republicans give 0bama their support if everything he has done goes completely against every thing they stand for??

Why should the republicans support 0bama
1. taking over ownership of two huge auto manufacturer's
2.buying controlling interest in AIG and CitiGroup
3. spending $787,000,000,000 on government make-work jobs
4. and a $410,000,000,000 Omnibus spending bill with 8,000 pork filled earmarks.

Why should republicans offer their support for 0bama's socialistic and Marxist policies?
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:45 PM
 
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Many thought he was the real deal. That he was going to make changes. He kept saying you know the kind of change you can believe in

THE REAL DEAL:

Organizing for America | BarackObama.com

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.


The real deal is that hussein obama is a liar, a con man. Even on the camaign trail he made up a story about his conception. He was born four years after this march. How much of this usupers life is all fabricated?

Make no mistake about it WE HAVE ALL BEEN PUNK'D!
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