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Old 08-09-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Isn't it amazing what McCain and Palin and the right-wing media have accomplished? This deep divide between Americans, this pathological fear of government and of Obama, this unprecedented support of the corporate agenda in America--all started with their campaign. McCain and his "this guy," and Palin's hatefest rallies, where she ramped up the paranoia and fear on the part of the ignorant and the racist--much like Anita Bryant (another "America's Sweetheart") used to do in her hateful rallies against gays and lesbians-- has now snowballed into a party of the seriously demented and vicious, ready to do the bidding of their neo-con handlers and hand their government over to the highest bidder. They should be ignored. They should get no media time, no coverage whatsoever. All it does is fuel the flames of their hate. Talk about an indictment of the American educational system. When half of the American people don't know that Judaism is older than Christianity, as Bill Maher pointed out, we can hardly expect them to respond rationally and intelligently to the issues.

 
Old 08-09-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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Default optimism or delusion ?

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Originally Posted by odanny View Post
The racist, gun toting, Democracy attacking thugs are going to HAVE to be stood up to, and the American people are going to HAVE to stand up if they dont want to see Democracy disappear.

The one thing I am optimistic about is I honestly believe that Americans, a majority of them eventually, will stand. I will stand with them and am down with the struggle indeed.

Bring it.
you are on the wrong side. you will lose. simple as that.
it's your funeral.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 12:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MovingForward View Post
Isn't it amazing what McCain and Palin and the right-wing media have accomplished? This deep divide between Americans, this pathological fear of government and of Obama, this unprecedented support of the corporate agenda in America--all started with their campaign. McCain and his "this guy," and Palin's hatefest rallies, where she ramped up the paranoia and fear on the part of the ignorant and the racist--much like Anita Bryant (another "America's Sweetheart") used to do in her hateful rallies against gays and lesbians-- has now snowballed into a party of the seriously demented and vicious, ready to do the bidding of their neo-con handlers and hand their government over to the highest bidder. They should be ignored. They should get no media time, no coverage whatsoever. All it does is fuel the flames of their hate. Talk about an indictment of the American educational system. When half of the American people don't know that Judaism is older than Christianity, as Bill Maher pointed out, we can hardly expect them to respond rationally and intelligently to the issues.



oh brother, this is just typicial crap from folks that can not think past their
haughty self-importance,
their heads are so far up their own butts, no one can possibly have
an opinion that differs from their own.
They are so busy spewing hate and norrow-mindness they start to believe their own bull shi*t
they are such raving bores, they do not reconize it due to their incredible
egos.
Every day, I am so thankful I woke up to the slimy, slithering, "party only" one track brains that I hear daily trying to beat down anyone that dares
think differently, I find them far more stupid with every rant they imploy.
I am so happy that I voted for McCain and not that hack you adore.
Obama will go down as not only the worst president in history, but will be proved to be the most despicable.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Default absolutely correct

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Originally Posted by georgia dem View Post
oh brother, this is just typicial crap from folks that can not think past their
haughty self-importance,
their heads are so far up their own butts, no one can possibly have
an opinion that differs from their own.
They are so busy spewing hate and norrow-mindness they start to believe their own bull shi*t
they are such raving bores, they do not reconize it due to their incredible
egos.
Every day, I am so thankful I woke up to the slimy, slithering, "party only" one track brains that I hear daily trying to beat down anyone that dares
think differently, I find them far more stupid with every rant they imploy.
I am so happy that I voted for McCain and not that hack you adore.
Obama will go down as not only the worst president in history, but will be proved to be the most despicable.
The election of obama was a fluke, a mistake of nature, like those two-headed cows at the county fair. And the democrats that went with him to DC are like the drooling meth addicted carnies trying to take your money at the kissing booth.
The tax receivers and the starbucks bloggers and the self-hating left-wing nut jobs that elected this arrogant pimp-strolling manchild are going to get the surprise of a lifetime in the next few years. They have only awakened a sleeping giant, and filled it with a terrible resolve.

Look out lefty, change is gonna come. just not the change you think.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Originally Posted by georgia dem View Post
oh brother, this is just typicial crap from folks that can not think past their
haughty self-importance,
their heads are so far up their own butts, no one can possibly have
an opinion that differs from their own.
They are so busy spewing hate and norrow-mindness they start to believe their own bull shi*t
they are such raving bores, they do not reconize it due to their incredible
egos.
Every day, I am so thankful I woke up to the slimy, slithering, "party only" one track brains that I hear daily trying to beat down anyone that dares
think differently, I find them far more stupid with every rant they imploy.
I am so happy that I voted for McCain and not that hack you adore.
Obama will go down as not only the worst president in history, but will be proved to be the most despicable.

Spot on. It is so funny the left is all about educating the unwashed masses. Only if we were as smart as they are we would agree with them. Of course a different world view is evidence of ignorance. They are so funny, slowly losing grip of reality as they are of the agenda.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I have never read or listened to anything from Jonah Goldberg!!! I referenced for you the folks whose academically acclaimed works I have read and who support what I have written!

What a priggish way to try to marginalize the FACTS!!!!

These are not MY ATTEMPTS. If you were not such an apologist for your own party, you would be able to see the truth.

Further, I ADMIRE FDR - think he SAVED this country and am in no way disparaging him, and neither were the historians whose works contain the information I took the time to share with you!!!!

You must be very young. Regardless, you are very arrogant! I am not some college kid you can slap around with your smart a$$ know-it-all attitude! Go READ!!! These are highly respected scholars and historians I have mentioned.

The fact that all you can come up with is some lame accusation that I would waste my time reading some unknown pundits' stuff is patently insulting - and ineffectual, as well.
I apologize for not taking the time to read your post before I shot my mouth off, I was clearly mistaken about your sources. Furthermore, there is historical precedent to some of FDR's programs, but this "Mussolini actually repaired crumbling _____ and built ____" and "Hitler was responsible for the People's Car, and the new Autobahn, and the _____," and "FDR was responsible for Public Works, and the CCC, and ____" is not in any way making a nexus of ideology between any of the three.

Furthermore, your description of fascism falls critically short in that arena, and this is a critical shortcoming, as it helps describe what fuels fascism and what it really is: A reinforcing link between government and industry in prosecuting war while practicing anti-democratic and carefully calculated fear and propaganda campaigns to intimidate the citizenry from objecting and protesting this arrangement. Thats why propaganda and control of the media becomes critical. (Look at Bush's hushed news conference on the eve of the Iraq war for a good look at how it works in America.)

FDR did not prosecute war until war came to Pearl Harbor, furthermore, he rejected English plea's to send manpower to fight the Axis juggernaut that clearly would not have been defeated until years later were it not for U.S. intervention.

FDR never declared war on Germany, Germany declared war on the U.S., so these attempts to link socialism/fascism to progressive policy is absurd, but I apologize for including you among this group, of which you clearly are not one of.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The election of obama was a fluke, a mistake of nature, like those two-headed cows at the county fair. And the democrats that went with him to DC are like the drooling meth addicted carnies trying to take your money at the kissing booth.
The tax receivers and the starbucks bloggers and the self-hating left-wing nut jobs that elected this arrogant pimp-strolling manchild are going to get the surprise of a lifetime in the next few years. They have only awakened a sleeping giant, and filled it with a terrible resolve.

Look out lefty, change is gonna come. just not the change you think.

You are few in number and even if you controlled all three branches of government you'd likely never win the will and support of more than a tiny lunatic fringe of Americans.

Which means, in the end, you will lose. And those with you will lose. And fascism will lose.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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I guess I will have to buy one before the next Democratic Town Hall. It is funny the way the Republicans throw that term around. I guess if you work for a living, this is how low the Republicans think of you. You are no better than a mugger- a criminal- for daring to stand up for your rights. For daring to try to make a living for yourself and your family! So I guess that makes you a "union thug". Welcome to the club!
I am from a working class family and am very pro-labor, pro worker. My hat is off to everyone who rolls up thier sleeves and pulls thier own weight.


Thuggery and suppression of free speech through intimidation and physical violence is another matter. Any thugs who participate in a 'beat down" to stop the ability of other citizens to express thier views is a facist pig. This is no different than when Nixon called in "the hard hats" to beat up and intimidate protestors in the Vietnam era. I really don't see how you can justify these actions with a straight face. It is shameful.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:14 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I find it beyond sad....really tragic.....that people will demean the American worker by calling them thugs ....all the while excusing the rape and pillage of the American people by the greedy, destructive insurance companies. If the insurance bigwigs take the tax payer's money for million dollar bonuses then that's just peachy keen. But heaven help the workers who want health care...they're thugs. What has happened to this country?
 
Old 08-09-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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you are on the wrong side. you will lose. simple as that.
it's your funeral.
Victories dont last forever. The Third Reich lasted only 12 years. And then it was their funeral.
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