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"Eight million children have no health insurance, but their parents pay 3 percent of their salaries to Medicare to make sure that seniors get the very best money can buy in prescription drugs for everything from restless leg syndrome to erectile dysfunction, scooters and end-of-life intensive care."
Several issues with your argument at different levels, and understanding/further discussion will depend on your responses to these questions:
A- Why do you think your (small business) employer pays for your health insurance?
B- Why must he overspend?
C- Why do you want to protect health insurance companies at the expense of the owner of small business, who employs you, which stands to benefit via cost savings?
D- Could you opt out of group plan and get your own (private insurance) coverage? If not, why not?
E- Did you know that provisions are being made to ensure that individuals and employers don't dump their existing plans for cost reasons alone? Instead they must keep their existing plans.
How about you ask your congressmen to support creation of "private options" for SS and Medicare for those like you who hate government run anything? Those can be discussed separately from health care (or more appropriately, health insurance) reform.
These are GREAT TALKING POINTS! I wish this is what people would talk about at the town hall meetings. It would really be a good conversation, and start of some really good dialogue.
Once Obama lost the Independents, his health care bill was DOA...
See, the funny thing is, obama and the dems don't need any republicans votes to pass ANY bill. IF they can peel away some Blue dogs in the house to get it passed, according to Dean and others in the party, they can use reconciliation and pass it in the senate with just 51 votes.
Why don't they do it?
They are going to OWN this bill anyway, why not make the left happy?
The Left will certainly NOT be happy with no public option, in fact they will lose house votes with a bill that has no public option.
If they do pass a bill with a public option by way of reconciliation, the house and possibly even the senate will change hands in 2010 - not that obama gives a damn about that.
The New Republic has more details (http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/archive/2009/08/13/mandatory-death-counseling-exposed.aspx - broken link) on that provision to pay for consultations to help people prepare living wills in case they become incapacitated and a couple of interesting things come out that, yet again, show the utter hypocrisy and dishonesty of the GOP on this provision.
Like the fact that a Republican legislator tried to put in an amendment to make such consultations mandatory and it was defeated, in favor of the version that is in the bill that makes them voluntary:
"While television cameras have focused on vocal opponents to health care reform, in many cases they have been outnumbered by supporters of the legislation in general and a public option in particular."
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good points EinsteinsGhost
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