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Rep. Clyburn: most of the stuff we do is not in Constitution!
Representative Clyburn admits most of the stuff Congress does is not in the Constitution.
Last week Judge Napolitano asked Representative James Clyburn, who was on his show as a guest, “Where in the Constitution is the federal government charged with maintaining people’s health?”
Clyburn answered “There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the federal government has anything to do with most of the stuff we do.”
Judge Napolitano then responds: “You took an oath to uphold the Constitution. You can’t go outside the Constitution because you think it is a good thing to do without violating that oath!”
Clyburn defiantly replies: “How about show me where in the Constitution it prohibits the federal government from doing this?”
Napolitano appropriately then cites the 10th Amendment!
Too bad we can’t get Bill O'Reilly to confront the core issue: Under what article, section, clause or amendment have the people of the united States delegated a power to Congress to tax for, spend on and regulate their personal health care needs?
JWK
Those who reject abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.
Representative Clyburn admits most of the stuff Congress does is not in the Constitution.
Last week Judge Napolitano asked Representative James Clyburn, who was on his show as a guest, “Where in the Constitution is the federal government charged with maintaining people’s health?”
Clyburn answered “There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the federal government has anything to do with most of the stuff we do.”
Judge Napolitano then responds: “You took an oath to uphold the Constitution. You can’t go outside the Constitution because you think it is a good thing to do without violating that oath!”
Clyburn defiantly replies: “How about show me where in the Constitution it prohibits the federal government from doing this?”
Napolitano appropriately then cites the 10th Amendment!
Too bad we can’t get Bill O'Reilly to confront the core issue: Under what article, section, clause or amendment have the people of the united States delegated a power to Congress to tax for, spend on and regulate their personal health care needs?
JWK
Those who reject abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.
First.. there is plenty of justification for it under the constitution.
But..does it not being written in a document written over 200 years ago.. when medicine amounted to leeches and elixirs and your local doctor was paid in bread, eggs and flour. mind you.. mean that we shirk our MORAL.. yes MORAL obligations as human beings to other human beings?
this HC reform isn't about givign people FREE anything.. it's ONLY about giving those of us shut out of purchasing our way INTO the system the opportunity to do so at a price within what we can afford...
FRee healthcare already exists..it's medicaid. Want to cry abuot people getting something for free.. go scream about irradicating medicaid!! (I'm not saying that is what I support, btw).
BTW.. education was not writtenin our constitution either.. but guess who the first person to introduce the idea of public edcuation was.. THOMAS JEFFERSON.. and itw as supported by many other founding fathers including Washington
Representative Clyburn admits most of the stuff Congress does is not in the Constitution.
Last week Judge Napolitano asked Representative James Clyburn, who was on his show as a guest, “Where in the Constitution is the federal government charged with maintaining people’s health?”
Clyburn answered “There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the federal government has anything to do with most of the stuff we do.”
Judge Napolitano then responds: “You took an oath to uphold the Constitution. You can’t go outside the Constitution because you think it is a good thing to do without violating that oath!”
Clyburn defiantly replies: “How about show me where in the Constitution it prohibits the federal government from doing this?”
Napolitano appropriately then cites the 10th Amendment!
Too bad we can’t get Bill O'Reilly to confront the core issue: Under what article, section, clause or amendment have the people of the united States delegated a power to Congress to tax for, spend on and regulate their personal health care needs?
JWK
Those who reject abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.
If Congress cannot even be bothered to read the legislation they vote on, what makes you think they give a tinkers-damn about their oath or the US Constitution, which they most likely haven't read either?
You are exactly right, there is no constitutional authority for the federal government to take control of health care, or education for that matter. It would not be until 1980, 192 years after the ratification of the US Constitution, before Democrats would violate both their oath and the US Constitution and create the illegal organization known as the Department of Education. Now they want to do it yet again with health care.
If the federal government intends to run health care like they have the Department of Education for the past 29 years, we will be completely bankrupt within the next decade and have far worse health care than we have today.
Then there are the uneducated who think MediCare/MedicAid is somehow "free", even though everyone pays 7.65% of their income to fund the unconstitutional program and it accounts for 23% of the total federal revenue.
Representative Clyburn admits most of the stuff Congress does is not in the Constitution.
Not surprised. Many like Clyburn like to skip the ninth amendment and why it was included to begin with. They stick to what fits their ideologies, and nothing that will require a bit of thinking.
First.. there is plenty of justification for it under the constitution.
What article, section, clause or amendment have the people adopted to grant power to Congress to tax for, spend on and regulate their personal health care needs?
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Originally Posted by TristansMommy
BTW.. education was not writtenin our constitution either.. but guess who the first person to introduce the idea of public edcuation was.. THOMAS JEFFERSON.. and itw as supported by many other founding fathers including Washington
I don’t recall in any of my research projects coming across a federal power being supported by the founding fathers to tax for, spend on or regulate “pubic education” within the various united States.
Let us look at some historical facts.
The People of Maryland delegated the power for a state funded and regulated educational system to their state elected officials, and not to the Congress of the United States sitting in Washington --- the wording being as follows:
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“The General Assembly, at its First Session after the adoption of this Constitution, shall by Law establish throughout the State a thorough and efficient System of Free Public Schools; and shall provide by taxation, or otherwise, for their maintenance.”
The Maryland Constitutional also states, in emphatic terms:
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“the People of this State have the sole and exclusive right of regulating the internal government and police thereof, as a free, sovereign and independent State.”
Under Art. 3 of Maryland’s Constitution, the command is for local regulation and funding of education as opposed to a federally funded and regulated public school system.
The Maryland Constitution also states:
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“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution thereof, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people thereof.”
This very provision of Maryland’s Declaration of Rights is also agreed to by the People of the United States by their ratification of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States!
So, by what constitutional authority has Congress been granted power to tax for, spend on and regulate public school systems established under State Constitutions? By what authority does Congress tax the people of Idaho to fund the public school system of New York?
JWK
Those who reject abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was agree to, as those intentions and beliefs may be documented from historical records, wish to remove the anchor and rudder of our constitutional system so they may then be free to “interpret” the Constitution to mean whatever they wish it to mean.
Oh and I suppose Jefferson was throwing out the constitution when he introduced the idea of public school supported by founding fathers including Washington
My question during all this is why are we making it so complicated?
When did a human being become a walking dollar amount?
when did we start placing money and wealth ahead of health?
Why is it that every single other industrialized nation on the planet (even third world countries)
have government health care systems in place, and every citizen has coverage except here.
Why is Democracy not threatened by this in all of these other countries?
yet here at the very idea people shout "socialism".
So all these countries are socialist countries?
because they place human life ahead of prosperity?
We are slaves to greedy doctors, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies.
we are victims of capitalist greed.
we are lambs being led to the slaughter.
How can a doctor refuse to help a patient who has no insurance,
then hop in his Mercedes and go home to his million dollar house and watch TV.
The issue seems simple to me.
My question during all this is why are we making it so complicated?
When did a human being become a walking dollar amount?
when did we start placing money and wealth ahead of health?
Why is it that every single other industrialized nation on the planet (even third world countries)
have government health care systems in place, and every citizen has coverage except here.
Why is Democracy not threatened by this in all of these other countries?
yet here at the very idea people shout "socialism".
So all these countries are socialist countries?
because they place human life ahead of prosperity?
We are slaves to greedy doctors, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies.
we are victims of capitalist greed.
we are lambs being led to the slaughter.
How can a doctor refuse to help a patient who has no insurance,
then hop in his Mercedes and go home to his million dollar house and watch TV.
The issue seems simple to me.
I think that the constitution is being misrepresented on a daily basis.
The simple fact of the matter is,
You cant trust people who have money to make important decisions for people who dont have money.
people with money only want more money.
Your health and happiness is not the issue for them.
The issue is
How can we appear sensative to the issues of the general public and
still fly my helicoptor to work?
The Government was designed to be run by the people,
How can politicians pretend to know what I want when they havent spent a day in my shoes.
How many politicians are middle class citizens?
how many politicians are from old money?
How do we get the common man involved?
You cant let big money make big money decisions.
They will take the money every time.
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Rep. Clyburn: most of the stuff we do is not in Constitution!
