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Didnt say I was fine with any billboards like this. In fact I gave examples of WHY I am not fine with it. In a case, where no crime has been directly witnessed by someone, how can the "informant" even be certain that a crime was commited?
You seem to have a habit of reading into things way too much, when they don't align with your whim. Otherwise you would be just fine.
Or, perhaps, it is crime in that particular region to carry illegal weapons?
Now the "gun" part of it isnt so much the issue with me, so no need to turn this into another thread on 2nd amendment rights.
The "gun" issue as stated here could be replaced with anything really...even something like, "know someone that isnt down with UHC? We'll pay for that information"
Basically, this is conditioning, and recruiting for informants, as a way to make an income, isnt it? Is this the "stimulus" at work?
There's a problem with your analogy.
"Not being down with UHC" is not a crime.
Now I'm fairly pro-Second Amendment myself, and I'm fairly pro-anti-snitch. But if I know of a situation in which some idjit has a firearm that an idjit shouldn't have (such as a recent -48 transplant straight out of prison who doesn't seem very adept at drawing a sober breath no matter what time of day)...I wouldn't take money for having a chat with the Troopers about the situation; I'd do so with the safety of my community in mind.
On the other hand, I used to live between two convicted felons up in the Su Valley (Alaska). I never felt safer in my life. No, they shouldn't have had firearms and as far as I'm concerned they didn't and no amount of money would have made me say they did.
But that's not what this is about. Crime-stoppers has always operated this way. I don't think it's right to offer money for ratting people out.
There's a problem with your analogy.
"Not being down with UHC" is not a crime.
Agree. But that didnt stop the whitehouse from asking that e mails criticizing UHC be forwarded to them. Regardless of the reasoning behind it.
The concern here was that this type of advertising for "informants", particularly on a billboard, goes a long way in "desensitizing" the general public toward this type of activity. Conditioning them to be forth coming with whatever information is asked of them, as long as they will get a stipend in exchange. Pavlonian conditioning.
Agree. But that didnt stop the whitehouse from asking that e mails criticizing UHC be forwarded to them. Regardless of the reasoning behind it.
The concern here was that this type of advertising for "informants", particularly on a billboard, goes a long way in "desensitizing" the general public toward this type of activity. Conditioning them to be forth coming with whatever information is asked of them, as long as they will get a stipend in exchange. Pavlonian conditioning.
I agree with you. And there are always idjits with the only trigger finger they have planted firmly on 911 et al.
Imagine my surprise when the Troopers came around one day because a neighbor complained of gunfire when I was (legally) shooting at beer bottles (we don't have bottle return here so we have to find some good use for the empties). Idjit had just moved up and probably thought she was still in the -48. The Troopers just laughed and were cool with it.
Or, for that matter, somebody who grows cannabis (for themselves only)? Someone who makes moonshine?
Encouraging people to turn in their neighbors for crimes that haven't been committed is bad policy. It's sheer lunacy that we outlaw the ownership of certain types of firearms when the true aim is to stop them from being used in a crime. Whether or not a gun is going to be used in a crime has nothing to do with what kind of gun it is, and everything to do with who owns it. But hell, governments have been encouraging people to turn in their neighbors and/or family members for a long, long time, so it's about time the U.S. got on board. A little fascism never hurt anybody, right?
So, if I understand you correctly, if you see some people with AK-47's, that is okay with you? You wouldn't see a "red flag" with that scenario?
So, if I understand you correctly, if you see some people with AK-47's, that is okay with you? You wouldn't see a "red flag" with that scenario?
If I see some people with AK-47's I would point at them and laugh. AK-47s are wildly inaccurate. I could stand 100 yards away from them and let them fire an entire 30-round magazine at me and I would be perfectly safe. If they want a good, reliable, and accurate fully automatic weapon, they should buy an M-249 SAW, or the M-60E3, but not a AK-47.
Money for snitching usually only pays off if it results in an arrest, by the way. I don't like the whole idea of it though.
I do not have a problem with citizens reporting a possible crime, providing the 2nd, 4th, and 6th Amendment rights of the accused are not abused in the process. I have turned poachers in to the Alaska Department of Fish & Game, and I would do so again. I provided the ADF&G with a written statement, and I was fully prepared to testify against them if it went to trial. It never got that far. They were cited and they paid the fine.
In the case of Fish & Game Regulations, poachers ruin it for everyone and for future generations. In the case of firearms, there are no "illegal" firearms in Alaska, they are all legal.
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