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Why not just every post by saying "Anyone who debates PurpleLove08 is wasting their time, because PurpleLove08 is just a mouth piece of propaganda with zero legitimacy and no substance."
BTW - you just made Greatday legitimate in his earlier comment.
The point of this thread is about the possibility of UHC in America...not how the UHC is in Canada. There are threads that talk about the health care system in Canada.
Of course, it was perfectly acceptable for you to point to what you saw as a positive in the Canadian health insurance program. But once the flaws in that system are pointed out, you want to push it off and say Canada's health care is not part of the discussion. It's either part of the discussion or it isn't; you can't make up rules for the conversation and change them to benefit each of your posts.
So my money either goes to a health care provider or the federal govt?
I'm paying for my health care right now, just mine. With UHC, I pay for other people's health care as well. Hm... which one will I choose.
No, if you're paying health insurance, you're already paying for other people's healthcare + you're lining the pockets of quite a few wealthy executives in the process.
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Why are people worried about the cost of UHC?
Because when the government's money runs out, we will be left without any other viable healthcare options. The best case scenario in the event of governmental budget cuts would be rationing of health care. The problems we have today are fixable without invoking government-run UHC.
So my money either goes to a health care provider or the federal govt?
I'm paying for my health care right now, just mine. With UHC, I pay for other people's health care as well. Hm... which one will I choose.
You're not just paying for your health care! That's ludicrous. Who do you think pays for all the uninsured? The insurance companies? Of course not. You do! It's part of your premiums that have been rising at like 6-8% per year over the past ten years.
Why would you say it goes to the Fed government? The point of the OP was that it would go to actual health care, not profits. As conservatives love to point out, it's not the government's money it's our money. So when you say give it to the government, aren't you saying giving it to us?
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You're not just paying for your health care! That's ludicrous. Who do you think pays for all the uninsured? The insurance companies? Of course not. You do! It's part of your premiums that have been rising at like 6-8% per year over the past ten years.
Why would you say it goes to the Fed government? The point of the OP was that it would go to actual health care, not profits. As conservatives love to point out, it's not the government's money it's our money. So when you say give it to the government, aren't you saying giving it to us?
Don't forget to factor in the cost of the pay, benefits, pensions, etc of the bureaucrats that will mismanage (er manage) the UHC program.
Your first link is from 2006. In that case, Blue Cross defended their cancelations, saying that the people they dropped had lied about or misreprested preexisting medical conditions. They settled the suit and agreed to an additional review of all policies they had cancelled. In those reviews, if wilfull misrepresentation by the policy holder was not found, Blue Cross would pay all the medical bills for that person.
I haven't had time to read & research all your links. My research of the first proves the point though. Insurance companies cannot just drop policy holders when they file for payment or when they get sick. Complaints of such actions are investigated and the insurance comnpanies are made to do the right thing. Pointing to an action like this that got settled and saying that it proves that insurance companies can do this is akin to pointing to the number of murders in the US and saying that Americans allow murder. It's simply not true.
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