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View Poll Results: Do You Agree With Obama That His Health Care Plan Should Pay For Illegal Aliens Health Care
yes 3 5.77%
no 47 90.38%
other 2 3.85%
not sure 0 0%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-13-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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Do You Agree With Obama That His Health Care Plan Should Pay For Illegal Aliens Health Care
Nope and Obama agrees with me...

"All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services."




Misleading GOP Health Care Claims | The FactCheck Wire (http://wire.factcheck.org/2009/07/23/misleading-gop-health-care-claims/ - broken link)
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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The problem with this huge bill is that one section may exclude the illegals but then an amendment is burried or added in a footnote at the last minute, much like the stimulous package. There were handwritten notes in pencil that drove this package through the roof. I am hearing an old Who song....Won't get fooled again...in my head.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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If Obama actually said that, then my answer is 'no'. If he did not, then my answer is moot.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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Nope and Obama agrees with me...

"All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services."




Misleading GOP Health Care Claims | The FactCheck Wire (http://wire.factcheck.org/2009/07/23/misleading-gop-health-care-claims/ - broken link)
It does say that, but people are not required to prove citizenship - a huge loophole that I'm sure can be seen by the millions living by loopholes.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:28 PM
 
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Obama has stated repeatedly that he does not support illegal immigrants being covered by health care.

Please stop spreading lies and focus on the facts of the debate.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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Obama has stated repeatedly that he does not support illegal immigrants being covered by health care.

Please stop spreading lies and focus on the facts of the debate.
You're missing a key fact. They don't have to prove citizenship and a proposal to include that was shot down.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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While Obama has made claims that illegal aliens will not be covered by his plan, the following line can be found among the 1018 page bill: Sec. 59B, Pg. 170, Line 1 - “Any NONRESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes.”

TheHill.com - Healthcare scheme would benefit illegal immigrants
The Democrats’ bill in the House, H.R. 3200, contains gaping loopholes that will allow illegal immigrants to receive taxpayer-funded benefits. And these loopholes are no accident.
As posted by someone with no familiarity with immigration law or alien status, and who gleefully takes a single line from a bill without checking what that line means in context. Good one.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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You're missing a key fact. They don't have to prove citizenship and a proposal to include that was shot down.
It's still a rough draft, rggr. That provision could make it's way into the bill. I will say this, though, I have a problem with anyone, illegal immigrant or not, being denied life-saving care at an emergency room. Someone who is bleeding to death should have that bleeding staunched. They can be returned to their host country for further medical treatment, but to just allow someone to die, I just couldn't do that.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:41 PM
 
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It's still a rough draft, rggr. That provision could make it's way into the bill. I will say this, though, I have a problem with anyone, illegal immigrant or not, being denied life-saving care at an emergency room. Someone who is bleeding to death should have that bleeding staunched. They can be returned to their host country for further medical treatment, but to just allow someone to die, I just couldn't do that.
If it ends up in the final bill, I would expect that this complaint would be resolved. However, it's not in there now.

Regarding life-saving care, I have no problem with that at all. I think it's inhumane not to do that.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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How about a pledge...c'mon everybody, pledge with me:

I pledge never to buy food again...some of the people who picked it or canned it were illegal and they get their lousy pay through sales of this food.


I pledge never to have my roof replaced or repaired because some of the workers may be illegal and they get their lousy pay from the repair.

I pledge never to buy anything again because the wealthy who benefit hire illegals to cut their grass, take care of their kids, service their husbands and sons, so by buying anything I'm sharing my money with illegals...



Anyone want to take the pledge ????
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