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Old 08-13-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Pretty typical rhetoric when the facts are against you.
It's noble that you fight till the end, but alas no radical Obama programs will be forthcoming.
Poor thing.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:02 PM
 
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This is absurd.

But "socialism" is quite a convenient word to use when you want to try and turn public opinion against something, when it may not even be applicable. Americans have no idea what socialism is.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Read History for your answer. Same tactics are used by GOP and the nascient Fascists of the 20's because they (then as now) do not have numbers.

No you NEED to read your history. READ!

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RADICAL REPUBLICANS. The Radical Republicans were a wing of the Republican Party organized around an uncompromising opposition to slavery before and during the Civil War and a vigorous campaign to secure rights for freed slaves during Reconstruction.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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Are you serious??


Look at a calendar:

2009.

Lot's happened while you slept, Rip:



Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972. Several other Southern senators, such as Richard Russell, Jr. of Georgia and James Eastland and John Stennis of Mississippi remained in the Democratic Party. They went on to become prominent senators who served multiple terms in the service of their respective states. These long careers in the Senate elevated their seniority and put them in positions of power and prestige.
Into the late 20th century, the South changed from a Democratic monolith to a majority Republican sector of the country with GOP gains in state legislatures. This change, which became quite evident in 1972 with the electoral success of Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy", peaked with the elections of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1988. It was consolidated in 1994 when Republicans gained a majority in the House of Representatives under the leadership of Newt Gingrich.

See ( "Dixiecrats: Wikipedia)
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:07 PM
 
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This is absurd.

But "socialism" is quite a convenient word to use when you want to try and turn public opinion against something, when it may not even be applicable. Americans have no idea what socialism is.
So very true.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:08 PM
 
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Are you serious??


Look at a calendar:

2009.

Lot's happened while you slept, Rip:



Senator Strom Thurmond switched parties and became a Republican as a result of his support for the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964. Jesse Helms also switched his party registration to Republican in 1970 and won a Senate seat in North Carolina in 1972. Several other Southern senators, such as Richard Russell, Jr. of Georgia and James Eastland and John Stennis of Mississippi remained in the Democratic Party. They went on to become prominent senators who served multiple terms in the service of their respective states. These long careers in the Senate elevated their seniority and put them in positions of power and prestige.
Into the late 20th century, the South changed from a Democratic monolith to a majority Republican sector of the country with GOP gains in state legislatures. This change, which became quite evident in 1972 with the electoral success of Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy", peaked with the elections of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1988. It was consolidated in 1994 when Republicans gained a majority in the House of Representatives under the leadership of Newt Gingrich.

See ( "Dixiecrats: Wikipedia)

Holy crap you post a link to an article about the civil war you CHOSE that era so I post a link showing your ideas are incorrect and now we jump to 2009. Great ok so please show me proof that the GOP is making us afraid of blacks.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:09 PM
 
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It's noble that you fight till the end, but alas no radical Obama programs will be forthcoming.
Poor thing.
Obama is a Moderate Corporatist- not a Progressive as he ran as.

But even he knows that without REAL Health Care Reform the Dems will implode.

Which is why look for Reconciliation and primary challenges for the Blue Shield Democrats (as Howard Dean promised)
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:10 PM
 
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Holy crap you post a link to an article about the civil war you CHOSE that era so I post a link showing your ideas are incorrect and now we jump to 2009. Great ok so please show me proof that the GOP is making us afraid of blacks.
History is something that's not yuour strong suit. I see.

Your argument is ridiculous, as a simple- elementary- Google search reveals:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:12 PM
 
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Read History for your answer. Same tactics are used by GOP and the nascient Fascists of the 20's because they (then as now) do not have numbers.
I hope for your own sake you're not being serious and you're historical research is very flawed.

You're correct that Europe and America have a racist past, but your link to anybody that disagrees with the president is ... flimsy and unaddressed. The Nazis took the idea of breeding the best from a Progressive idea. Does that mean current Progressives are Nazis? No. Does that mean current Conservatives are Nazis? No

Peaceful protests are protected by the Constitution and the founding fathers. As Thomas Jefferson said, "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then."

So while you may wish to silence the first amendment rights of many you don't agree with, you must ask yourself who's opinions are really not compatible with the country we live in, theirs or your own?

If there are any manufacturing of protests, lets look at groups like ACORN, Code Pink, SEIU, etc. that have been doing it for years without the media paying attention to the fact that it was all manufactured.
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Old 08-13-2009, 10:14 PM
 
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I hope for your own sake you're not being serious and you're historical research is very flawed.

You're correct that Europe and America have a racist past, but your link to anybody that disagrees with the president is ... flimsy and unaddressed. The Nazis took the idea of breeding the best from a Progressive idea. Does that mean current Progressives are Nazis? No. Does that mean current Conservatives are Nazis? No

Peaceful protests are protected by the Constitution and the founding fathers. As Thomas Jefferson said, "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then."

So while you may wish to silence the first amendment rights of many you don't agree with, you must ask yourself who's opinions are really not compatible with the country we live in, theirs or mine?
Only "flimsy" to those who do not know History and Racism.
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