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Oh please - we are talking about sports involving animals .
Oh btw - I can agree with the cutting off of the hands when someone steals something. It is a very effective deterrent. As in some countries, if a man rapes a woman, they cut off his p enis - again - very effective.
"Oh please" yourself. Just because people call it a "sport" doesn't mean it is. And just because the "only" ones being tortured in that so-called "sport" are animals doesn't mean that they didn't suffer horribly. Anybody who attempts to minimize the horror those animals went through is spiritually bereft.
I wonder how much of a "sport" you would think it was if someone tortured you in the way Vick tortured those animals.
In some countries - c ock fighting, for money, is a national issue. Done everywhere. Yet few complain about this.
This thread isn't about those topics, it is about MV.
And I am just as much opposed to any of those practices. I would never respect anyone who participates in activities like that.... and again, for people that enjoy torturing other living beings... I hope there is such a thing as KARMA.
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No, he has NOT "paid for his crimes." Legality has nothing to do with morality and compassion--and Vick has neither. The animals he tortured suffered HORRIBLY. And he LAUGHED.
He has not "shown remorse" for anything other than having lost a fortune.
I really don't understand you people who think that because a torturer spends less than 2 years in a minimum security prison and then publicly says "I'm sorry," that somehow signifies that he has undergone a complete psychological transformation. Serial torturers--and Michael Vick is a serial torturer--do not change. I guess, though, that love of football trumps morality for some people.
Michael Vick "deserves" NOTHING.
You can no more state with certainty he is not remorseful than I can state with certainty that he is. So in an instance like this you have to just follow the law.
1) Was he convicted of his crimes? Yes
2) Was he punished for his crimes? Yes
3) Did his crimes warrant a lifetime ban from the NFL? No.
So its really as simple as that. What warrants a lifetime ban? Not driving drunk and killing someone, although it has warranted a one year ban on Donte Stallworth.
But after someone is free from prison they can then rejoin society and as long as they do not violate their parole/probation and/or break the law they are no longer subject to discrimination, or should be.
Most of them can't get jobs. When they do, it's not for millions of dollars. Scrubbing toilets at a truck stop or doing back-breaking manual labor of some sort would be more in-line.
That part of the reason why half become cons again.
I love all animals and what Michael Vick did was a total disgrace.
Michael Vick seems to have his head on his shoulders now. He did a great interview and answered the questions well. I think he deserves another chance at life.
Eagles gamble on disgraced NFL star Michael Vick - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090814/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_eagles_vick_signs_26 - broken link)
This guy had other means to support himself other than practicing cruelty to animals. I have no pity for him and wish that he'd lose an arm or leg playing pro football.
You can no more state with certainty he is not remorseful than I can state with certainty that he is. So in an instance like this you have to just follow the law.
1) Was he convicted of his crimes? Yes
2) Was he punished for his crimes? Yes
3) Did his crimes warrant a lifetime ban from the NFL? No.
So its really as simple as that. What warrants a lifetime ban? Not driving drunk and killing someone, although it has warranted a one year ban on Donte Stallworth.
But after someone is free from prison they can then rejoin society and as long as they do not violate their parole/probation and/or break the law they are no longer subject to discrimination, or should be.
"In an instance like this," you do not teach America's children that someone like Michael Vick is someone to emulate.
The law is not the measure of morality.
Are you some kind of obsessed football fan? Because I really, really don't think you'd be making this argument on behalf of a released pedophile who "served his time."
But after someone is free from prison they can then rejoin society and as long as they do not violate their parole/probation and/or break the law they are no longer subject to discrimination, or should be.
Oh but most are.
I think people who play sports (as well as other entertainers) should be held to the same standards as the rest of the population.
The fact that we, as a society, have turned these people into near demi-gods is just sickening.
No, he has NOT "paid for his crimes." Legality has nothing to do with morality and compassion--and Vick has neither. The animals he tortured suffered HORRIBLY. And he LAUGHED.
He has not "shown remorse" for anything other than having lost a fortune.
I really don't understand you people who think that because a torturer spends less than 2 years in a minimum security prison and then publicly says "I'm sorry," that somehow signifies that he has undergone a complete psychological transformation. Serial torturers--and Michael Vick is a serial torturer--do not change. I guess, though, that love of football trumps morality for some people.
Michael Vick "deserves" NOTHING.
good post.
he did this for SIX YEARS. He drowned them by holding their heads under water in a barrel, he dropped them from high up onto concrete slabs, he electrocuted them, for SIX YEARS. He's dispicable. and to say it's in his ''culture'' is disgusting.
Of course it does. Ten years ago Bill Clinton was doing interns in the Oval Office. Now he's freeing hostages from North Korea.
I can easily visualize Mr. Vick petting kitties and feeding pigeons in the park.
Even felons can change their ways for 1.3 mil a year.
Comparing a BJ by an intern to electrocuting dogs And this compares exactly how to anything in the real world.
This lower lifeform will be back in the courtroom within 5 years. His only remorse is that he got caught, not about what he did, and without remorse he ain't change one bit, he will just try to be more careful.
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And this compares exactly how to anything in the real world. 
