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The strange thing about watching Trent Lott's slow-motion toppling late last year was that the whole uproar was about something that was not particularly new or unknown about Lott.
Lott's lack of judgment, like that of many Republicans, is embodied in his dalliances with right-wing extremists, which had been well observed previously. In Lott's case, he had an open alliance with the Southern variant of extremism, embodied in the neo-Confederate movement, a band of Southern revivalists who unabashedly argue for modern-day secession by the former Confederate States: "The central idea that drives our organisation is the redemption of our independence as a nation," says the mission statement for the League of the South."
Hell, thayse gonna git rat on that there SEEcession thang.
Just as soon as Nascar raps up, and Toby Keith releases his new CD.
That the best you've got? There are people left, right and in between who are sick of the federal government, and motivations for secession are as numerous as secessionists. You'll find quite a mix of different sides with the SVR: Second Vermont Republic
That the best you've got? There are people left, right and in between who are sick of the federal government, and motivations for secession are as numerous as secessionists. You'll find quite a mix of different sides with the SVR: Second Vermont Republic
Yep, the 15% out there will give you noise- and perhaps a few lone nuts doing isolated violence- but little else.
...while the adults are working hard to repair the damage from 8 years of Republican rule, 6 of which they were a majority and failed at everything they did.
Sure seems like things starting going downhill those last 2 years. Hmmm
You have to pay into both of those for years before you are allowed to use them.. So they are different than UHC...
And I do agree we do need to do something about the high cost of health insurance.
Well, sorry, to burst your bubbly Houston, but that goes for any government sponsored program on the tax payers back.
When Social Security first started the first individuals to get coverage and checks did not pay a dime into the system. In fact i'd estimate that the first 20 or 30 years of the program were abused by those who did not pay either a dime or remotely close to how much they got out of the program.
This is how government backed Ponzi Scheme work, sorry, if you were unaware.
Considering the people that will be getting UHC for the most part are employed, they'll be paying into the system, especially if government (which i hate) mandates, a tax on everyone that does not use healthcare. Now, the big question with Healthcare becomes are you paying in more than you'll ever get out. If you're a healthy younger worker like myself who does not smoke or drink, you will be screwed much like you currently are on your company sponsored plan, so im' basically damned either way! I cannot currently go to my health care provided and say, "Hey you guys i'm one of the good guys that takes care of myself, so can i get all the premiums, i did not use last year back?"
It doesn't happen in the private industry, what would make you think it would happen when it is public?
He didn't say all of the opposition was racially motivated... I don't think you need to get very upset over this. There are obviously people who don't like Obama simply because he is black, and will oppose anything he does simply because he is black. To think that racists are logical enough to put that hate behind them and think rationally about health care reform is absurd, and you really should have thought about that before you made this post. Have you not seen the videos of people in the town hall meetings? Do you really think that much anger and rage comes from HEALTH CARE REFORM? No, its just blind hate.
We will just have to disagree on this one.
I happen to know very well that the same folks (my friends, family, neighbors, coworkers) who were upset about healthcare reform under Clinton are upset about it this go round, too. SO I think that is sheer horse hooey to make such a clearly prejudiced and stereotyped assumption about a group of people who happen to be against the programs they have seen - and tag on that they are all racists just b/c they live in the South.
I stand by what I said. The folks I know who are against healthcare reform were against it in 1993 and that was when Bill Clinton was in office - who is, btw, also a Southerner.
I think the way Southerners get labeled is narrowminded and bigoted and hateful.
I happen to know very well that the same folks (my friends, family, neighbors, coworkers) who were upset about healthcare reform under Clinton are upset about it this go round, too. SO I think that is sheer horse hooey to make such a clearly prejudiced and stereotyped assumption about a group of people who happen to be against the programs they have seen - and tag on that they are all racists just b/c they live in the South.
I stand by what I said. The folks I know who are against healthcare reform were against it in 1993 and that was when Bill Clinton was in office - who is, btw, also a Southerner.
I think the way Southerners get labeled is narrowminded and bigoted and hateful.
Hey you can believe whatever you want to believe. But its your choice to make up problems if you really want to. And I love when conservatives pull the "Well all the people I know blah blah blah" You know less than .001% of the country, so what your friends and family do is really irrelevant to any conversation. To deny that there are racist people in America, ESPECIALLY if you live in the south, is just downright ignorant. Go look up the videos in west virginia during the democratic primaries. Theres a lot more of those people than friends you know. And they are a perfect example of just hating someone because of their race, so completely open and blatant about it. So I understand that of course thats not EVERYONE opposed to health care reform, but to say that none of it is racially motivated is ignorant and stupid.
I am a Southerner and I find what you said very disturbing b/c it is simply untrue.
I am stunned you would somehow twist discussions about healthcare insurance into racism.
Surely you don't really think that folks would be in favor of - or opposed to - something as general as healthcare b/c of prejudice against black people? That is beyond absurd. Really.
So when the country was screaming in opposition to healthcare reform under Clinton, it was b/c of racism?
With some poeple everyhthing is racism. Wander what he thinks of young blacks killing each other being their #1 cause of death?
We are no where near as divided as we were during the run up to the Civil War.
The reason why we were in that war was because an entire group of states were forcing another entire group of states to do something they wouldn't like. I know we have those "blue state/red state" maps, but we are considerably more intermingled than that.
I figure 4-6 years before any type of seperation of some states happen, i look for the feds to try and confiscate firearms before that happens.
I figure 4-6 years before any type of seperation of some states happen, i look for the feds to try and confiscate firearms before that happens.
Not gonna happen, but then again none of the predictions from the right ever do. No one is coming for your, or my, guns, where do you people get such tripe?
Casper
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