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Old 08-16-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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I'm not surprised by the South, but Massachusetts surprised me. Only 29% liberal? Really?!
Those were self-imposed labels. Most Americans (even in Massachusetts) don't like to call themselves liberal. For a lot of people, the word "liberal" is still associated with weakness and effeminacy. Conservatives and Republicans did an excellent job of giving the word a negative connotation. The tide seems to have turned, however. Most young adults today don't want to be called conservative.
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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well my home state of Florida is the oddball of the South! Please do not call us "southerners" because we are not! We voted for Obama and put him in the White House! Look at our Governor Crist who is a Republican but not some right wing douche bag. If it weren't for Florida i couldn't live in any other southern state.
Well just make sure you stay in the lower half of the state.
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Old 08-16-2009, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Surprised by Iowa being considered 'more conservative', considering the reputation they have for being left-leaning/progressive. Especially compared to other neighboring Plains states.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:52 AM
 
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Texas is more "western" than "southern". Notice it didn't make either list. It's more "Libertarian" and split almost evenly. Of course, it depends on which region of the state one refers to.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:03 AM
 
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well my home state of Florida is the oddball of the South! Please do not call us "southerners" because we are not! We voted for Obama and put him in the White House! Look at our Governor Crist who is a Republican but not some right wing douche bag. If it weren't for Florida i couldn't live in any other southern state.
And your educational system is one of the worst in the country still. Miami is a third world country and the economy is in shambles.

Yeah, funny how you are more worried about not being Southern than the devestating condition of your state

My state of Oregon is not exactly thriving right now either and we vote Dem as well
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:13 AM
 
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That's a good first look, but the polll does not divide the various conservative camps, and show their geographical context.

For example, Mtn State Conservatives are more traditional, in the mainstream American sense, featuring libertarianism (when it suits them; heavy government control when it doesn't), and less social conservatism, to give it a nicer touch.

Not so the South; the mainstram of the GOP:

It's essential feature is hatred: race (mostly) but also anything that stands in the way of the old Bourbon class.

It is also not concerned with traditional democratic (notice case of the '"d") and is a major reason why the rest of the country has flushed the Republicans- as Voinovitch (R-Ohio) said.

In other verbage.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Those were self-imposed labels. Most Americans (even in Massachusetts) don't like to call themselves liberal. For a lot of people, the word "liberal" is still associated with weakness and effeminacy. Conservatives and Republicans did an excellent job of giving the word a negative connotation. The tide seems to have turned, however. Most young adults today don't want to be called conservative.
Why would the word liberal be associated with weakness and effeminacy?
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Only 21% of the general U.S. population considers themselves liberal.

“Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group
And half of them are in straight jackets...
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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Why would the word liberal be associated with weakness and effeminacy?

That's because someone has ODed on Newt, Rove, and O'Liely.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Rocket City, U.S.A.
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Not all "Conservatives" are Republican. Not all are bible-bangers. Not all are anti-equality. Not all have a well-stocked bomb shelter.

Though I am tempted from time to time because YOU ALL scare me. (Wink.)

Example? Viola:
Secular, Gay-friendly, gun-owning, money & goods donating, Bambi-feeding tree hugger who just happens to fall in to that personal responsibilty/socially semi-liberal/fiscally...ooh...it starts with a C...therefore often placing me in with the others I am probably nothing like otherwise.

If I were asked, are you this or that, only two choices...

Polls are wacky. Every time I take the Libertarian evaluation it puts me some where else on the scale - I belong but never in the same place...
Extreme Liberals think I'm Conservative. Hard-core Conservatives think I'm Liberal. Well, no...they think I'm the Devil, actually.
Huh.

So I don't put much weight on someone else's determination of who or what they think I am. How much or many...

I don't even know what I am.

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