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I have asked this question numerous time. I have written my Congressman. I dropped a line at the White House. Nobody wants to answer it.
Current per-capita health care cost is $7,900 per year, inclusive of the uninsured. We claim there are 47 million Americans who are uninsured, and lack regular healthcare. Obama's plan is going to insure 95% of them for an additional $600 billion a year. Total expenditures today are $2.4 trillion. Lets add another $600 billion and we are at $3 trillion. Divide that by the same 300 million Americans and the per-capita cost is now $10,000.
Per capita spending in the UK: $2800. Germany: $3200. France: $3200. Canada: $3200. Japan: $2300.
We are going to increase the per-capita cost under his plan. Increase taxes under this plan. Obama stated last month that he is going to lower the cost per person to make it more affordable to all Americans. I have the video clip.
Regardless of how it is paid for (income tax, payroll tax, Monopoly money), the net per-capita cost is going to rise. We are going the wrong way while at the same time representing that we are going to lower costs.
Anybody else worried about a President and Congress who are bad at math?
Last edited by GOPATTA2D; 08-15-2009 at 08:08 AM..
I have asked this question numerous time. I have written my Congressman. I dropped a line at the White House. Nobody wants to answer it.
Current per-capita health expenditures are $7,900 per year, inclusive of the uninsured. We claim there are 47 million Americans who are uninsured, and lack regular healthcare. Obama's plan is going to insure 95% of them for an additional $600 billion a year. Total expenditures today are $2.4 trillion. Lets add another $600 billion and we are at $3 trillion. Divide that by the same 300 million Americans and the per-capita cost is now $10,000.
Per capita spending in the UK: $2800. Germany: $3200. France: $3200. Canada: $3200. Japan: $2300.
We are going to increase the per-capita cost under his plan. Increase taxes under this plan. Obama stated last month that he is going to lower the cost per person to make it more affordable to all Americans. I have the video clip.
Regardless of how it is paid for (income tax, payroll tax, Monopoly money), the net per-capita cost is going to rise. We are going the wrong way while at the same time representing that we are going to lower costs.
Anybody else worried about a President and Congress who are bad at math?
Its not Obamas plan, its the first draft of a plan passed by congress.
I might add, that this plan was not passed with ANY Republican input. It was asked for, but most Republicans decided to fight against any healthcare reform, rather than actually work to get a good bill.
I disagree with the plan they passed, because it increases costs at rates higher than they would naturally with no change. However, we spent 2.4 trillion dollars last year on healthcare, and we are looking at spending 3.1 trillion this year if nothing changes. Thats growing by almost 50 percent per year. That means in 2010, we might be looking at 4.5 trillion, and 2011 it'll be 6.75.
We can't keep going at that rate, and something needs to change. I want Republicans in on the process, I want people to work together, rather than shove through a bad bill, or object against any change.
I have asked this question numerous time. I have written my Congressman. I dropped a line at the White House. Nobody wants to answer it.
Current per-capita health expenditures are $7,900 per year, inclusive of the uninsured. We claim there are 47 million Americans who are uninsured, and lack regular healthcare. Obama's plan is going to insure 95% of them for an additional $600 billion a year. Total expenditures today are $2.4 trillion. Lets add another $600 billion and we are at $3 trillion. Divide that by the same 300 million Americans and the per-capita cost is now $10,000.
Per capita spending in the UK: $2800. Germany: $3200. France: $3200. Canada: $3200. Japan: $2300.
We are going to increase the per-capita cost under his plan. Increase taxes under this plan. Obama stated last month that he is going to lower the cost per person to make it more affordable to all Americans. I have the video clip.
Regardless of how it is paid for (income tax, payroll tax, Monopoly money), the net per-capita cost is going to rise. We are going the wrong way while at the same time representing that we are going to lower costs.
Anybody else worried about a President and Congress who are bad at math?
(Here is where we need a smilie with his hand up in the air waving.) I'm worried about it. They've been bad at math for years and years.
But that begs another question. Are they bad at math, or are they unconcerned that the numbers don't add up, because to be concerned would put a monkey wrench in their agenda?
I have asked this question numerous time. I have written my Congressman. I dropped a line at the White House. Nobody wants to answer it.
Current per-capita health cost is $7,900 per year, inclusive of the uninsured. We claim there are 47 million Americans who are uninsured, and lack regular healthcare. Obama's plan is going to insure 95% of them for an additional $600 billion a year. Total expenditures today are $2.4 trillion. Lets add another $600 billion and we are at $3 trillion. Divide that by the same 300 million Americans and the per-capita cost is now $10,000.
Per capita spending in the UK: $2800. Germany: $3200. France: $3200. Canada: $3200. Japan: $2300.
We are going to increase the per-capita cost under his plan. Increase taxes under this plan. Obama stated last month that he is going to lower the cost per person to make it more affordable to all Americans. I have the video clip.
Regardless of how it is paid for (income tax, payroll tax, Monopoly money), the net per-capita cost is going to rise. We are going the wrong way while at the same time representing that we are going to lower costs.
Anybody else worried about a President and Congress who are bad at math?
Fuzzy Math+Politician=Disaster Just look at any big government program. Don't trust any of them!
It is even worse if one looks at the marginal cost per capita for each of the 47 million. Reform yes, access, yes. A plan that simply does not add up, no.
It is even worse if one looks at the marginal cost per capita for each of the 47 million. Reform yes, access, yes. A plan that simply does not add up, no.
Now we are getting somewhere!!
I absolutely agree with this statement. The problem is that Democrats are shoving through a bad plan, but I don't blame just them, because the Republicans aren't trying to help put a decent plan together. They only want to oppose anything that Obama is trying to do.
Regardless if you like him or not, he is the President, there is a problem, and he wants to get it fixed. Everyone needs to pull their heads out of the sand and work to get a good bill passed. I think that if they do it right, it wouldn't cost any extra money.
You have confused per-capita cost with per capita insurance cost. There is a difference between the cost per person and who pays for it. Try again.
You are confused, the family being insured are the ones paying for insurance.
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