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View Poll Results: Probability of HC reform being passed in 2009
1 - 25% 1 4.35%
26 - 50% 4 17.39%
51 - 75% 4 17.39%
76 - 100% 6 26.09%
0%, Zip, Nada, None, Put a fork in it. 8 34.78%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-15-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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None! It has hid the skids the people are speaking up they don't want it!
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Popular support for any and all of the democratic and White House health care reform proposals is quickly evaporating.

What chance do you give for passage of health care reform by the end of the year?
Lies can win only for so long. In this case, reality will prevail, and the bill will pass.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:47 AM
 
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Educate yourself about how this bill will be paid for.

Hint: Not by increasing the deficit, like Bush's $400 billion Medicare drug bill that had no provisions for how it would be paid for. It just plunked $400 billion onto the already deepening deficit.

Why weren't you b****ing about "socialized, government controlled" health care, or deficit spending on it, back then, hmmm?
I did not support the Medicare drug bill. I don't know why people find it so easy to jump to conclusions.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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There are those who believe health care should be a right. That statement is evidence of mass insanity or cognitive dissonance.

Let me rephrase it so it makes perfect sense.
1. HEALTH CARE (someone's labor) is a RIGHT (protected by Constitution).
2. RECEIVING HEALTH CARE (someone's labor) is a RIGHT (protected by Constitution).
3. COMPELLING someone else to do or pay for my health care is a RIGHT. (uh - no, that is involuntary servitude)
4. Giving HEALTH CARE is a RIGHT (nope - unlicensed practice of medicine is a crime).
So you see that what the government says is "health care reform" is not.

If you truly want universal health care, you need to decriminalize the giving of care, decriminalize the purchase of medicine and medical machinery, expand medical training and education, and eliminate tort liability by "Satisfaction guaranteed or your money back."

But that requires a reduction in power, which the government is loathe to do.
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