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Old 08-15-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: In Transition
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I just don't get the blind Obama backing of this turd of a House bill on health care. Every single progressive I've read supports a single payer health plan, such as Nader and Michael Moore. Instead, we get a vague 1000 page bill that is the worst attempt of lamely supporting insurance companies with vague language to maybe grandfather in some type of single payer?!??! Worse, it doesn't even touch one of the largest drivers of health care cost, drug costs.

I mean, come on. I hate having to deal with a third party health care insurance system, but does this mean we have to accept ANYTHING that is crapped out by Congress?

I just don't get Congress and Obama. They have the majority in the House, Senate, and the President. They can pass single payer (Medicare for all) if they want to. Pelosi could just tell Limbaugh "go f--- yourself, Americans voted for a Democrat majority, they want this". Instead, Pelosi is so worried about the health insurance system and drug companies, they can't produce a simple health care reform bill the right way the first time? We HAVE TO ACCEPT a 1000 page contorted bill which weaves and dodges when you get to keep your insurance or not? Apparently, none of the anti-single payer advocates are buying into this crappy bill anyways, so why waste the energy and do what's right?

Then there are the blind Koolaid drinking Obama loyalists who believe Obama uber alles. Why aren't these people asking the Democrats, especially Obama, "why don't we just pass a SIMPLE single payer Medicare for all, Obama? Pres. Obama and Pelosi, why are you bending backwards to appease the health insurance and drug companies instead of doing what's right?"
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Old 08-15-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Pres. Obama and Pelosi, why are you bending backwards to appease the health insurance and drug companies instead of doing what's right?"
Moneymoneymoney Mon Ey.

It costs so much to run for office in this country that virtually all politicians can be bought.
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Old 08-15-2009, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I laugh every time I read that Republicans and their thugs are holding up healthcare reform.
Couldn't be further from the truth.

They don't even need these town halls. They have the numbers and a President to sign a bill.
I don't even bother posting on any of the "town hall" threads..it's a moot point. Congress will pass what it wants to pass driven by what Obama wants.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I just don't get why people seem to think asinine KoolAid remarks are a reasonable substitute for reasoned, meaningful, intellgent discussion.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Please continue to argue amongst yourselves while the wheels come off the various loopy left health care plans.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Please continue to argue amongst yourselves while the wheels come off the various loopy left health care plans.


Aw, c'mon, throw out a few "KoolAids" so we'll know just how smart you really are.

And is "loopy" now replacing "loony" amongst the NeoConfused?
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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Please continue to argue amongst yourselves while the wheels come off the various loopy left health care plans.
Health Care Reform is coming whether you like it or not. At least be realistic. You know its coming....
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Health Care Reform is coming whether you like it or not. At least be realistic. You know its coming....
What's taking it so long?
The left has a majority.
I think you need a reality check.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Aw, c'mon, throw out a few "KoolAids" so we'll know just how smart you really are.

And is "loopy" now replacing "loony" amongst the NeoConfused?
NeoConfused..Good one smarty pants
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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MediCare for ALL or MediCare for NONE
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