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Old 08-17-2009, 10:24 AM
 
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I'll start.

Lie: Obama is a Marxist/Socialist/Communist. (You dont need links for that, do you?)

Truth: Obama is a staunch defender of capitalism. This proves it on three key issues very well.
Personally, I wouldn't consider "Marxist/Socialist/Communist" a lie by definition. I would call it an opinion rooted in world history. You can call a used car salesman a liar if you can prove that he's lied to you. But can you prove that Obama is not a Marxist/Socialist/Communist with the same type of irrefutable proof?

I don't think so, because it's more of an opinion than it is a lie.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:25 AM
 
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Corporations are GOOD because they create jobs! LOL...One of my favorite Conservative LIES!
Jobs are bad?

If you don't like talk radio- don't listen. I am a conservative, but find talk raido boring. Solution- don't listen.


So why do you find talk radio disturbing if you do not listen to it? Are you suggesting that other people who listen to talk radio should not do so, or do not have that right? What rights are YOU permitting them? Are there any rights that you can think of the conservatives should limit or ban in your life?
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:28 AM
 
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Corporations are GOOD because they create jobs! LOL...One of my favorite Conservative LIES!
The corporation I work for employs 45,000 people. As one of them, I am thankful they created MY job.

Please explain how this is a lie.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Corporations are GOOD because they create jobs! LOL...One of my favorite Conservative LIES!
Corporations don't provide job? So all the people finding themselve with a pink slip never really had a job. I get it.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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The more I listen to Conservative talk radio, the sicker I get. They repeat the same lines almost like religion. I have come to realize that only a very brainwashed and irrational person could believe in these lies, most of them have no idea what they are talking about and are just conditioned over time to repeat the same irrational, stupid lines as if they were gospel. "The Founding Fathers..." like that ignorant woman at the townhall meeting that talked about the "sleeping giant". Bunch of hooey!
Then stop listening and keep to your liberal truth. Stop making life so difficult and painful.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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Personally, I wouldn't consider "Marxist/Socialist/Communist" a lie by definition. I would call it an opinion rooted in world history. You can call a used car salesman a liar if you can prove that he's lied to you. But can you prove that Obama is not a Marxist/Socialist/Communist with the same type of irrefutable proof?

I don't think so, because it's more of an opinion than it is a lie.
Did you read the link I provided?

You might already know this one: GM Will Go Public First, Bloom Says
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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The more I listen to Conservative talk radio, the sicker I get. They repeat the same lines almost like religion. I have come to realize that only a very brainwashed and irrational person could believe in these lies, most of them have no idea what they are talking about and are just conditioned over time to repeat the same irrational, stupid lines as if they were gospel. "The Founding Fathers..." like that ignorant woman at the townhall meeting that talked about the "sleeping giant". Bunch of hooey!
So you would rather listen to the liberal lies?

They both do it, you know.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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So you would rather listen to the liberal lies?

They both do it, you know.
such as what?
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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The corporation I work for employs 45,000 people. As one of them, I am thankful they created MY job.

Please explain how this is a lie.

Enron is the perfect example of how good and compassionate corporations are, I am sure all those ex-Enron employees are as thankful as you are for all the jobs the company created and unions are BAAAAAAAAAD!. Keep believing the LIE.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: PA
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I'll start.

Lie: Obama is a Marxist/Socialist/Communist. (You dont need links for that, do you?)

Truth: Obama is a staunch defender of capitalism. This proves it on three key issues very well.

While the story does explain socialism clearly we can see that Obama has not called for pure socialism to be to enacted. But I do find it funny that via the government he is willing to take from the rich, middle class and move my around via taxes to control private "property" and or income. To tax those who make over 250k more and I'm sure new taxes for the healthcare plan. To suggest income caps on CEO's and to bailout companies is also socialistic and for the "common good" which is also more of a marxist and communist idealogy. While they are not "socialist" they are socialistic in nature and move this country closer to the already socialist government problems we have had for a very long time. Obama has no problem moving the country into the direction of government controlled wealth and income redistribution. I cant call that capitalism and I can't call it socialism.. so for now since the behavior is socialist in nature that is the term that is used. PS Bush did the samethings and I could call him a socialist as well. Others have called it Democractic Socialism or hyrid captialist/socialist society.
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