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Old 08-17-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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People take their 2nd Amendment very seriously... I mean it is the SECOND (that's after the number one) amendment... I mean the SECOND one that was made... when people make a list they usually list things in order of importance... it was very important to bear arms for a reason... so that tyranny will face serious consequences if it rears its ugly head...
You paranoid right-winger! That could never happen here.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:52 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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How many people have been killed and raped in national parks over the past 20 years? You sound like a paranoid wacko or a scared little *****, which is it?
The NPS doesn't keep precise stats on crimes in parks, but crime is rising, particularly related to meth labs.

The Seattle Times: Local News: Crime slowly creeps into parks, forests

NRA-ILA :: Bi-Partisan Congressional Majority Moves<br>to Restore Second Amendment in National Parks (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4901 - broken link)
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:57 PM
 
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If you're that afraid, maybe you would be better advised to spend your vacation at home under the bed.
I spend a lot of time outdoors in the national forest in VT, and other public lands, as well as time I've spent in Northern Maine. The USFS has always allowed guns to be carried in accordance with state laws BTW, unlike national parks. I'm not scared to be in the woods alone, for weeks at a time in the past, but I will not go unprepared, and a gun is part of what I consider prepared to be in the wilderness. I have run into people I got a very bad feeling about, and I have had encounters with animals that ended fine but could have gone differently. Get back into the backcountry in states like MT, WA, OR, AK, etc., and you're on your own. Guns have saved lives of people unlucky enough to encounter a criminal, a rogue bear, or who have become lost and needed food. Most park visitors don't venture much past the guided tours and most popular areas.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:57 PM
 
Location: On Top
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"It is extremely disturbing that you have that kind of weapon in close proximity to where the president is," Ruben Gallego, a military veteran and state Democratic Party official, told the newspaper. "He was demonstrating his Second Amendment rights, but he was clearly there to intimidate people who were there exercising their First Amendment rights."

More guns spotted outside Obama appearance - UPI.com
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:00 PM
 
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Can you IMAGINE the uproar if people had shown up with semi-automatic weapons at a Bush event???

For the far right, which basically has the intelligence of a boxer who's gone too many rounds, all threats of violence against blacks and liberals are okay. It's how they define "freedom."
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:01 PM
 
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I spend a lot of time outdoors in the national forest in VT, and other public lands, as well as time I've spent in Northern Maine. The USFS has always allowed guns to be carried in accordance with state laws BTW, unlike national parks. I'm not scared to be in the woods alone, for weeks at a time in the past, but I will not go unprepared, and a gun is part of what I consider prepared to be in the wilderness. I have run into people I got a very bad feeling about, and I have had encounters with animals that ended fine but could have gone differently. Get back into the backcountry in states like MT, WA, OR, AK, etc., and you're on your own. Guns have saved lives of people unlucky enough to encounter a criminal, a rogue bear, or who have become lost and needed food. Most park visitors don't venture much past the guided tours and most popular areas.
How many mountain lions and bears were in attendance at Obama's event?
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Can you IMAGINE the uproar if people had shown up with semi-automatic weapons at a Bush event???

For the far right, which basically has the intelligence of a boxer who's gone too many rounds, all threats of violence against blacks and liberals are okay. It's how they define "freedom."
Well, firstly, there wasn't such a big risk of an assault on gun rights by Bush (the katrina confiscations were done by leftist Nagin), so it wasn't something to be expected as a protest subject under him, and secondly, security has been tighter with O than Bush so I'll make an assumption and say the response would have been no different from the Secret Service and police.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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"It is extremely disturbing that you have that kind of weapon in close proximity to where the president is," Ruben Gallego, a military veteran and state Democratic Party official, told the newspaper. "He was demonstrating his Second Amendment rights, but he was clearly there to intimidate people who were there exercising their First Amendment rights."

More guns spotted outside Obama appearance - UPI.com
He was not brandishing it or pointing it at people. He was completely within the confines of and the intent of the law. Just because you pee your pants doesn't make him wrong.
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:09 PM
 
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How many mountain lions and bears were in attendance at Obama's event?
Well, were there any of the acorn or union thugs there ready harass people?
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Old 08-17-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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Can you IMAGINE the uproar if people had shown up with semi-automatic weapons at a Bush event???
I don't recall this kind of bull happening before.....EVER

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