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You mean the paid spokesman for Cato, the loony think tank that says smoking doesn't cause cancer, and gets its funding from Big Tobacco?
You mean the John Stossel who was seen coaching kids to say "Global Warming is real, and not made-up by science.", so he could then record 'em, and use the recording to say the Public Schools were teaching "Liberal" dogma?
That John Stossel?
Why not just ask Glenn Beck, if you want true insanity?
Do you disagree with what was in the link?
Would you like to point out what you disagree with?Or is it easier to just trash who said it?
Do you disagree with what was in the link?
Would you like to point out what you disagree with?Or is it easier to just trash who said it?
"The reason can be found in Econ 101. Medical care doesn't grow on trees. It must be produced by human and physical capital, and those resources are limited. Therefore, if demand for health care services increases -- which is Obama's point in extending health insurance -- prices must go up. But somehow Obama also promises, "I won't sign a bill that doesn't reduce health care inflation".
Here's the part where Johnny gets his bribe from the insurance industry.
Either that or he's just as ignonant as the Palinistas.
For in truth, the most wasteful system (cost and coverage basis) in the industrial world is our private sector system.
But in all likelyhood, it's a bribe driving his lies- not ignorance.
And you believe Obama when he says he won't sign a bill that doesn't reduce health care inflation?
Can you tell us what is proposed that is designed to decrease that and doesn't also call for decrease in services and/or already inadequate reimbursements ?
If he really means it and can prove it, I'll bet many opponents will withdraw their objections
Stossel is usually a complete waste of time and has been for years. In this case, he is quite right to lament the inane "death panel" campaign contrived by the disinformation media and a few deranged yet still prominent right-wing yahoos, but as soon as he ventures into Econ 101, he falls right off the rails. Supply and demand do not behave as he indicates, and it is nobody's intention to keep health care costs from growing. It is obviously a good thing that health care costs are larger today than they were in 1950 simply because we have twice as many people to care for. That new demand created new supply. It did not result in rationing.
The problem that presently needs addressing is the rapidly increasing share of health care costs as a percentage of GDP and the inexcusably large amounts of health care spending that do absolutely nothing to improve actual health. To restate what everyone who has paid attention already knows, for what we pay for health care in this country, we should be getting much better actual health care. The objectives of every reformer are to cut costs while improving care, and nothing Stossel says actually deals with the plain fact that, given our mess of a start point, both objectives are indeed achievable.
What is really sad is how lazy so many people are, and that they won't even take a look at the bill themselves. Could it be fear that they would have to admit that it is a colossal boondoggle, so poorly written that it should never be voted on?
Here is a link to both the Senate and House works in progress. I have listen to many attack and many attempt to defend Obamacare plans. Then I go and read them for myself. So far the people doing the attacking seem to be more accurate in their attacks than those trying to defend. Maybe it is because those doing the attacking have actually read the bills?
You mean the paid spokesman for Cato, the loony think tank that says smoking doesn't cause cancer, and gets its funding from Big Tobacco?
Where did you read that the people at the Cato Institute don't believe that smoking causes lung cancer?
Here's what I found there:
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None of this is to suggest that the attack against cigarettes is entirely dishonest. Without question, the evidence is that cigarettes substantially increase the risk of lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema...
And you believe Obama when he says he won't sign a bill that doesn't reduce health care inflation?
Can you tell us what is proposed that is designed to decrease that and doesn't also call for decrease in services and/or already inadequate reimbursements ?
If he really means it and can prove it, I'll bet many opponents will withdraw their objections
Simple: The Public Option.
See, insurance comapny PROFITS are up 1000% over the past 10 years.
That's ALL waste; fraud by CEOs.
Public Option stops that, as shown by every other industrialized countries record.
Most "opponents" are either ignorant or in love with Fox News; 25 % of Americans are now defacto fascists ('Conservatives Without Conscience" John Dean).
Nothing will alter their ideology. Except good economic times which is the slayer of fanaticism.
See, insurance comapny PROFITS are up 1000% over the past 10 years.
That's ALL waste; fraud by CEOs.
Public Option stops that, as shown by every other industrialized countries record.
Most "opponents" are either ignorant or in love with Fox News; 25 % of Americans are now defacto fascists ('Conservatives Without Conscience" John Dean).
Nothing will alter their ideology. Except good economic times which is the slayer of fanaticism.
How come it's NOT working with the Mass. health plan ?
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