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If you want to keep private insurance and health care in control without government funded or provided healthcare than you are still going to have to use heavy handed government reform that will force them to accept all people and cap their ability in charging premiums.Which that still is government controlling the free market but I don't see the health industry freely accepting to cut profit and provide to all out of their good hearts without reform.
Oh and btw good luck with seeing that happen when the insurance industry drops a payment into a politicians bank account........
There will have to be some type of regulation. In Switzerland, health care is privatised and available for all at the cost of very stringent government regulation. The basic healthcare package offered by any insurance company cannot be for-profit.
LOL really I don't see the health care bill getting passed anytime soon. So perhaps you should come down off your high horse because the honeymoon is OVER!
Come on....put more wood on the fire... get your thinking cap on...you can do it.
If there is a public option that is lower cost or the fines for not providing benefits are less than the cost of providing them, many employers will just say...let the government deal with it. Can you not see something that simple? There are no safeguards being proposed because Obama and company WANTS private insurance out of business. Their aim is NOT fair competition but rather a single payer system run by government.
Absolutely. I have this conversation alot at work. Why would any company keep paying for HC, when everyone's already being taxed for it and can get it from the Govt.? I think almost every company will put their people on the Govt. plan.
LOL really I don't see the health care bill getting passed anytime soon. So perhaps you should come down off your high horse because the honeymoon is OVER!
The public option will crowd out private insurance. Unless they plan on giving private insurance companies the right to print US currency the playing field will be very lopsided. Now the question you really need to ask yourself is do you want a single payer system?
As a conservative, I find myself on the fence regarding the "public option." On one hand, I want all American's to have access to affordable health insurance, and I am also slightly offended by the obscene profits that insurance companies often make. I am especially offended by these profits while they turn away those with pre-existing conditions. Insuring the healthy appears to be the driving goal because its a cash cow for Big Insurance.
On the other hand, I don't believe government is being straight with us over who will pay for the "public option." As a result, I am not convinced that taxes won't be raised on the middle class. Further, history has shown that government cannot be trusted to draft, enact, and manage entitlement programs efficiently.
Therefore, I am on the fence on this issue. Where do other conservatives stand?
I couldn't say it any better then you. I also feel the same. Personally I do not trust a thing coming from hussein obama so I hope this health care issue is stalled until we can get rid of this devious usuper and his criminal administration.
As a conservative, I find myself on the fence regarding the "public option." On one hand, I want all American's to have access to affordable health insurance, and I am also slightly offended by the obscene profits that insurance companies often make. I am especially offended by these profits while they turn away those with pre-existing conditions. Insuring the healthy appears to be the driving goal because its a cash cow for Big Insurance.
On the other hand, I don't believe government is being straight with us over who will pay for the "public option." As a result, I am not convinced that taxes won't be raised on the middle class. Further, history has shown that government cannot be trusted to draft, enact, and manage entitlement programs efficiently.
Therefore, I am on the fence on this issue. Where do other conservatives stand?
There is an oxymoron if I ever heard one, (Conservatives for Socialized Healthcare). Look there are alot of good ways to reform the healthcare industry without letting the government take it over or rewarding insurance companies. Competition, Competition ,Competition....we must start by lowering the cost and getting employers and insurance companies out of the loop.
There is an oxymoron if I ever heard one, (Conservatives for Socialized Healthcare). Look there are alot of good ways to reform the healthcare industry without letting the government take it over or rewarding insurance companies. Competition, Competition ,Competition....we must start by lowering the cost and getting employers and insurance companies out of the loop.
Why do you guys continue to say "government will take it over?" This has been debunked numerous times. A public option is just that, an option. If you have good health care through your employer like me, you can keep it.
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The issue I have with the Government option is two fold. One is I still have no clue who is paying for this option and there is no safe guards in place to prevent every employer from dumping their employees on the GO. I really could care less if the governement wants to offer a health plan but I want to know how it is getting paid for and what they will do to prevent companies from just not offering health insurance anymore.
You may have a point on the dumping but that can be dealt with through the law hopefully. Something like "any employer that has or has had a plan in the past 3 years and terminates it shall be charged DOUBLE.
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