Judge sets January 2010 federal same-sex marriage trial (attorney, racist, solution)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

Gays are telling you to stop the fighting words and hate speech.

Neither Gays nor anyone else have any say in the matter of what is preached at the pulpit. Its a fact, churches exist in part to warn their adherents to stay away from what they believe to be evil and to prescribe to tenets that embody what they believe to be righteous--even if its uncomfortable for some to hear.

However if you feel that strongly about it, I suggest you put together a coalition of like minded people and organizations and start a campaign to repeal freedom of speech.

Good Luck with that.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

And some things never change. Sorry.

Tell that to the people in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Iowa, Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, South Africa, and Canada. The definition of marriage has changed in those places.

And dictionaries are beginning to change their definitions as well:

Wonkette : Dictionary Redefines Marriage, For The Gays

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Great story on Ted Olson and how he became interested in arguing the case for same-sex marriage:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/us...n.html?_r=1&hp

He sounds very confident about winning.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

Tell that to the people in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Iowa, Sweden, Norway, The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, South Africa, and Canada. The definition of marriage has changed in those places.

And dictionaries are beginning to change their definitions as well:

Wonkette : Dictionary Redefines Marriage, For The Gays

Yes, unfortunately many have successfully sought to bastardize an institution they have no business touching. Correct.

But the real definition of Marriage still hasnt changed.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

He sounds very confident about winning.

So was the No on 8 Campaign the day before the election.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

But the real definition of Marriage still hasnt changed.

That's fine. In your religion and in your mind, you can believe whatever you want.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

So was the No on 8 Campaign the day before the election.

That has nothing to do with Ted Olson's optimism about this case.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

That's fine. In your religion and in your mind, you can believe whatever you want.

We seem to disagree.

Say, would you like to put it to a vote?

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

We seem to disagree.

Say, would you like to put it to a vote?

No, I'm just talking about the laws as they are on the books. Marriage laws have obviously changed in some places. Same-sex marriages in those places are as legitimate in the eyes of the law as opposite-sex marriages.

Civil marriage licenses are granted in those places without regard to the approval or disapproval of the churches.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale

No, I'm just talking about the laws as they are on the books. Marriage laws have obviously changed in some places. Same-sex marriages in those places are as legitimate in the eyes of the law as opposite-sex marriages.

Civil marriage licenses are granted in those places without regard to the approval or disapproval of the churches.

Can't argue with this.