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Old 08-20-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Please, know your history first.

America was brought into WWI and WWII because we were attacked. Both wars started years before we were forced to join in.

Vietnam was a major blunder of more than one adminstration (Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ and Nixon)


It would be another 8 years before LBJ was president.

Pointing fingers without knowing what you are pointing at just hurts your argument. There are facts you can use to discredit liberals, but these stretches of the truth only make you seem ignorant or delusional.

If you want to discredit Liberals, just use JFK or Carter's presidencies...they are FULL of blunders.
In this current war we were attacked, I was pointing out the hypocracy of the other poster

Please know your history


I understand that we were attacked in a round about way (the lusitania in 1916 in WW1) but in WW2, Germany did not attack us, Japan did. We rushed to the aid of oppressed peoples (western Europe) (sound familiar???) and then allied ourselves with a dictator just as bloodthirsty as Hitler (Stalin)

You make excuses for the Dems here but fail to see the real picture that both parties are equally responsible for violence
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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I didn't read through this thread, but the Republican Party began as the progressive party to end slavery. The Democrats were the conservative / status quo party. The likes of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt would definitely be Democrats today.

So, slide that one over to the other column.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:47 PM
 
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Might not care for these sources...but it's a start to follow up on.


A Layman's short History of Gun Control in America

T-Nation.com | States with Very Restrictive Gun Laws
i'm not clear on how this is a response to my post.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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haha... who did the ecoterrorists kill? or even hurt?

are you going to apologize to me for calling me a liar?
What, because they actually didn't kill anyone? They didn't care if they did, they just got lucky. I don't need to apologize to you..
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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What, because they actually didn't kill anyone? They didn't care if they did, they just got lucky. I don't need to apologize to you..
Actually, that's not really true. While I don't condone the actions of ecoterrorists, they tend to strike new housing developments at night (when no one's there) or unoccupied vehicles (such as Hummers). Some liberate animals.

I can't personally think of an incident in which they actually killed anybody or set out to, though there may be a few. They tend to target property.

Again - their actions are very counter-productive, but they're usually not murderers.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Actually, that's not really true. While I don't condone the actions of ecoterrorists, they tend to strike new housing developments at night (when no one's there) or unoccupied vehicles (such as Hummers). Some liberate animals.

I can't personally think of an incident in which they actually killed anybody or set out to, though there may be a few. They tend to target property.

Again - their actions are very counter-productive, but they're usually not murderers.
Well, The Clintons had Vince Foster killed..does that count?
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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What, because they actually didn't kill anyone? They didn't care if they did, they just got lucky. I don't need to apologize to you..
you called me a liar for saying that there have been numerous instances of right-wing violence since obama was elected.

when i listed them, you said they weren't right wingers. when i pointed out that they were, you said "nyah nyah but the left do it tooooo" and listed a bunch of attacks on property.

if you had a shred of intellectual honesty or integrity you would admit you were wrong when you called me a liar and move on to trying to refute my points, instead of playing these dumb little partisan fingers-in-the-ears games.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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Well, The Clintons had Vince Foster killed..does that count?

WTF...you go from bad to worst anytime you can't make your point with facts.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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I can't personally think of an incident in which they actually killed anybody or set out to, though there may be a few. They tend to target property.
the article robertgibbs linked to specifically says that no one has ever been hurt or killed in any of these incidents.

i'm not condoning destroying or damaging property, but it's on a different level from shooting at people.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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Yeah, you're right.

The right just prefers to go overseas and kill foreign people we don't even know.
Yep.

WWI Woodrow Wilson
WWII Roosevelt
Korea Truman
Vietnam Kennedy/Johnson
Somalia/Bosnia/Afghanistan/Kosovo Clinton

The Democrats never go overseas to kill people. LOLs.
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