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Old 08-23-2009, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Since contraception is more effective today, why do we need abortion?
I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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If you want to have a private conversation that others are suppose to ignore, use the message function. It's a public forum. You posted something unintelligible and I had every right to ask you for a clarification.

Big difference between me posting something unintelligible and you not understanding it. The reason you find it unintelligible is because you are not following the thread. You have a nice day.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Since contraception is more effective today, what rationalization can be made for why we still need abortion?
Is there any contraceptive that is 100% effective?

The pill, iuds, condoms... shessh, not sure what even is available these days!

And... if the lady wasn't on a contraceptive because she was abstinent, would you blame her for not being on one and then wanting an abortion because she was raped or horribly experienced incest?

Would you just say too bad?
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:09 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Ok.... Let's have it your way for a second:

2012: Abortion becomes illegal. An 18 year-old dirt poor, unemployed, high-school dropout was forced to give birth to a baby she would have rather aborted. The father is MIA. Three of the babies grandparents have already passed away and the sole surviving one is addicted to crack-cocaine. When she sees the new miracle she falls instantly in love with it's beautiful brown skin and wonders how she could have ever thought of ending the life of something so wonderful. New mommy and baby are left to fend for themselves. When mother and baby leave the hospital she goes down to social services and applies for food stamps, WIC, monthly welfare checks, Section-8 to pay her rent, applies for state provided insurance coverage for the baby, and applies for charity care at the local hospital for herself.

Would you grant her all that she applies for? And if so, for how long?
I absolutely would grant her those things. I would also provide her with parenting classes, nutritional classes, job training classes, and day care when she goes to work until the child is in school or until she earns enough to pay for it herself. I would encourage her to join in support groups for young moms through her church or community center. Small price to pay.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Originally Posted by NEWARK MAGIC View Post
Ok.... Let's have it your way for a second:

2012: Abortion becomes illegal. An 18 year-old dirt poor, unemployed, high-school dropout was forced to give birth to a baby she would have rather aborted. The father is MIA. Three of the babies grandparents have already passed away and the sole surviving one is addicted to crack-cocaine. When she sees the new miracle she falls instantly in love with it's beautiful brown skin and wonders how she could have ever thought of ending the life of something so wonderful. New mommy and baby are left to fend for themselves. When mother and baby leave the hospital she goes down to social services and applies for food stamps, WIC, monthly welfare checks, Section-8 to pay her rent, applies for state provided insurance coverage for the baby, and applies for charity care at the local hospital for herself.

Would you grant her all that she applies for? And if so, for how long?
Yes, until she can get back on her feet to care for her baby.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.
Actually, Momokey's question was a legitimate one. Here it is again:

Since contraception is more effective today, why do we need abortion?
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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Actually, Momokey's question was a legitimate one. Here it is again:

Since contraception is more effective today, why do we need abortion?
asked and answered check the previous page
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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Actually, Momokey's question was a legitimate one. Here it is again:

Since contraception is more effective today, why do we need abortion?
Because, sometimes, males don't take "NO" for an answer.

Because, sometimes, males pretend to wear a condom in their effort to trap the female into staying with them.

Because, sometimes, males assault and/or kill their mates when they discover they are pregnant.



I lived through the first two.

A miracle saved me from the last one.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:42 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Actually, Momokey's question was a legitimate one. Here it is again:

Since contraception is more effective today, why do we need abortion?
As a choice... as an option... YES!
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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Yes, until she can get back on her feet to care for her baby.
We might as well be realistic. I know a woman (not a friend) - on welfare, section 8, food stamps, receives 1300/mo for child care (even tho she doesn't work) and has 4 children. All have been left back in school. Her ten yr old is still in the 2nd grade. All three boys cannot read. They live in the bronx. They will produce more children that will do the exact same thing. These people don't know how to get on their feet and the money isn't working. It's so depressing.
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