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In 2003 the State of Missouri paid for 33,436 Medicaid births, according to Total Medicaid Births - Kaiser State Health Facts. In Georgia it was 67,637, in New York it was 102,340. Nationwide the figure was 1,495,266.
It's bad enough that my tax dollars are going to pay for people to have children who cannot AFFORD to have children; cannot afford to raise children, feed children or educate children properly, but now the government wants me to pay for UNINSURED people to have children too?
Most insurance companies will not pay to have a face lift. They will not pay to have breast implants because they say that this is an ELECTIVE PROCEDURE. In other words, it is matter of CHOICE and is not required to continue the health and wellness of the person.
CAN YOU TELL ME ANY PROCEDURE THAT IS MORE ELECTIVE than having a baby? Is there ANYONE out there who honestly believes that people MUST have babies in order to remain healthy and well?
In a world that is grossly overpopulated by more than 6.5 billion people, some of them starving for lack of food, dying of exposure, disease and forced to drink putrid water, HOW DARE anyone ask me to finance someone who intends to have a child but cannot pay for it themselves.
How Dare They.
I will NEVER support this legislation, and if there is ANY opportunity to opt out of the system if/when it is put into effect, I wll do so IMMEDIATELY and lobby everybody I know to do the same.
In 2003 the State of Missouri paid for 33,436 Medicaid births, according to Total Medicaid Births - Kaiser State Health Facts. In Georgia it was 67,637, in New York it was 102,340. Nationwide the figure was 1,495,266.
It's bad enough that my tax dollars are going to pay for people to have children who cannot AFFORD to have children; cannot afford to raise children, feed children or educate children properly, but now the government wants me to pay for UNINSURED people to have children too?
Most insurance companies will not pay to have a face lift. They will not pay to have breast implants because they say that this is an ELECTIVE PROCEDURE. In other words, it is matter of CHOICE and is not required to continue the health and wellness of the person.
CAN YOU TELL ME ANY PROCEDURE THAT IS MORE ELECTIVE than having a baby? Is there ANYONE out there who honestly believes that people MUST have babies in order to remain healthy and well?
In a world that is grossly overpopulated by more than 6.5 billion people, some of them starving for lack of food, dying of exposure, disease and forced to drink putrid water, HOW DARE anyone ask me to finance someone who intends to have a child but cannot pay for it themselves.
How Dare They.
I will NEVER support this legislation, and if there is ANY opportunity to opt out of the system if/when it is put into effect, I wll do so IMMEDIATELY and lobby everybody I know to do the same.
the party of "freedom" has spent their entire time since getting elected telling us what we have to do, without choice. we will have to pay more for taxes, energy, and health care since obama got elected, if these plans go through. we have no say in any of these programs. jobs are disappearing and*these programs grow government bureaucracy and cost private sector jobs. we have had no say in the federal reserve printing spree depreciating our dollar so that the value is degraded. american purchasing power is dropping due to the actions of the criminal federal reserve and the government will not allow an audit to proceed.(contact barney frank about that!)
theoretically, wouldn't it be great if there was an opt out of health care so the people who don't want to waste their money on health insurance would not have to? after all, insurance is just insurance and that is how these companies make money! wouldn't it be better to keep your own money? i bet most americans would opt out if they had a choice!
the party of "freedom" has spent their entire time since getting elected telling us what we have to do, without choice. we will have to pay more for taxes, energy, and health care since obama got elected, if these plans go through. we have no say in any of these programs. jobs are disappearing and*these programs grow government bureaucracy and cost private sector jobs. we have had no say in the federal reserve printing spree depreciating our dollar so that the value is degraded. american purchasing power is dropping due to the actions of the criminal federal reserve and the government will not allow an audit to proceed.(contact barney frank about that!)
theoretically, wouldn't it be great if there was an opt out of health care so the people who don't want to waste their money on health insurance would not have to? after all, insurance is just insurance and that is how these companies make money! wouldn't it be better to keep your own money? i bet most americans would opt out if they had a choice!
Yes, it would be much better to keep and save your own money. But would most Americans opt out? No way in the world, as they are programmed and addicted to the notion that "health care" should be free and that they need 10 times more of it than they really do. That's why today's media has become a wasteland of ads paid for by drug pushers. It's the easiest money out there - no real competition in the marketplace and a public who eats it up and begs for more.
Those are the two major problems that lay at the foundation of the "health care" mess we have today. 1) A public made up of addicted zombies who wouldn't begin to understand the question you ask and 2) That big business has moved in and taken full advantage of that reality in a non-competitive marketplace. They're milking it for all they can while they can....from people who are honestly convinced they have no choice.
So...what do you propose? Using your tax dollars to pay for abortions? It's cheaper.
Or, would you just let the innocent babies die from neglect?
I don't mind paying for abortions.
Innocent babies already die every day in this world. I don't support subsidizing irresponsible behavior. Until you can pay for your child without government help, stop having children.
the party of "freedom" has spent their entire time since getting elected telling us what we have to do, without choice. we will have to pay more for taxes, energy, and health care since obama got elected, if these plans go through. we have no say in any of these programs. jobs are disappearing and*these programs grow government bureaucracy and cost private sector jobs. we have had no say in the federal reserve printing spree depreciating our dollar so that the value is degraded. american purchasing power is dropping due to the actions of the criminal federal reserve and the government will not allow an audit to proceed.(contact barney frank about that!)
theoretically, wouldn't it be great if there was an opt out of health care so the people who don't want to waste their money on health insurance would not have to? after all, insurance is just insurance and that is how these companies make money! wouldn't it be better to keep your own money? i bet most americans would opt out if they had a choice!
Do you have any idea how expensive it is for just one round of chemotherapy?? There is no way that the average American could ever save enough money to pay for cancer treatments. Or for multiple joint replacements. Or for a lot of other things.
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson
In 2003 the State of Missouri paid for 33,436 Medicaid births, according to Total Medicaid Births - Kaiser State Health Facts. In Georgia it was 67,637, in New York it was 102,340. Nationwide the figure was 1,495,266.
It's bad enough that my tax dollars are going to pay for people to have children who cannot AFFORD to have children; cannot afford to raise children, feed children or educate children properly, but now the government wants me to pay for UNINSURED people to have children too?
Most insurance companies will not pay to have a face lift. They will not pay to have breast implants because they say that this is an ELECTIVE PROCEDURE. In other words, it is matter of CHOICE and is not required to continue the health and wellness of the person.
CAN YOU TELL ME ANY PROCEDURE THAT IS MORE ELECTIVE than having a baby? Is there ANYONE out there who honestly believes that people MUST have babies in order to remain healthy and well?
In a world that is grossly overpopulated by more than 6.5 billion people, some of them starving for lack of food, dying of exposure, disease and forced to drink putrid water, HOW DARE anyone ask me to finance someone who intends to have a child but cannot pay for it themselves.
How Dare They.
I will NEVER support this legislation, and if there is ANY opportunity to opt out of the system if/when it is put into effect, I wll do so IMMEDIATELY and lobby everybody I know to do the same.
How Dare They.
20yrsinBranson
What part of "if you like your plan, keep your plan and if you like your doctor, keep your doctor" don't people understand?
You're kidding us, right? With so many problems in our current health care system, you're opposed to reform because of childbirth!
I brought this up on another thread, so please forgive me for repeating myself, but the most serious problem facing our current health care system is its link to traditional employment. A huge portion of our nation, people who work at all economic levels, do not have access to employer-provided insurance. This is insanity!
What happens to you when you are down-sized right out of your benefit-laden job, your Cobra runs out, and no other insurance company will touch you with a ten-foot-pole?
Meanwhile, we have a bunch of people at town hall meetings, shrieking about Socialism and "death squads" without any understanding of how tenuous their access to health care really is.
Ladies and gentlemen, this country desperately needs health care reform. YOU desperately need health care reform, because right now the system typically only works for those who don't need it.
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