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Well, if you don't believe there is a double standard then I have to believe you are in denial. The left definately holds the republican party to a higher standard than they hold their own. Anytime a republican takes a stumble the left has a field day as can be seen right on these boards, and more specifically with this thread.
Hypocrisy, yes, "fake" morals, I'm not certain the religious right has fake morals, but they have morals that often are at serious odds with my own beliefs.
Where I find the issue most troubling is "legislating" morals and "setting" policy that will affect us all for future generations. The politicians are outside the morals issue--few have any!
Frankly, I strongly believe the politicos have used and in some cases, abused, the religious right for their own gains and some of their rhetoric is now being revealed for what it is: double standards.
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Absolutely.
These people are trying to impose their fake morals on the rest of us through legislation and through policy. Sorry, but I have a huge problem with that and think these people need to be exposed to the light of day at every opportunity.
And if high-ranking and powerful Democrats were doing this sort of thing, I'd be calling their asses out, too. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. But because Republicans have been in positions of power for so long now, it's theirs that have the most direct impact on our daily lives right now.
Any time anyone takes a stumble--they are called on it: Biden, Obama, Clintons, the Gov. of MT; the Senator for Nebraska, you name it, they are called on every little word they speak, every misstep is examined and highlighted for hours on talk radio, television and here.
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Well, if you don't believe there is a double standard then I have to believe you are in denial. The left definately holds the republican party to a higher standard than they hold their own. Anytime a republican takes a stumble the left has a field day as can be seen right on these boards, and more specifically with this thread.
And that would be why Clinton is still villified as an adulterer yet we hear nothing when Bush actively campaigns for an adulterous PA congressman or no one on the right seems too upset with Newt's or Rudy's adulterous ways?
Now I understand even better. Hypocrisy only counts in certain cases. In other cases, its justifiable. Cool, now I know.
The question was with the degree of hypocrisy you could validly claim over stances on separate issues versus that only too evident in this case from what was practiced and preached on the very same issue. Your post does not really answer that question...
And that would be why Clinton is still villified as an adulterer yet we hear nothing when Bush actively campaigns for an adulterous PA congressman or no one on the right seems too upset with Newt's or Rudy's adulterous ways?
I never villified Clinton as an adulterer myself. Others may have. But what I do villify is him shaking his finger and saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". He also questioned the meaning of the word "is".
That's just sad.
BTW, I'm not a Bush fan either before you go there.
The question was with the degree of hypocrisy you could validly claim over stances on separate issues versus that only too evident in this case from what was practiced and preached on the very same issue. Your post does not really answer that question...
Gun control stance and abortion stance are not seperate issues when you are speaking about the constitution. Either the constitution is or isn't open to more debate and legislation.
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I never villified Clinton as an adulterer myself. Others may have. But what I do villify is him shaking his finger and saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". He also questioned the meaning of the word "is".
That's just sad.
BTW, I'm not a Bush fan either before you go there.
I wouldn't attempt to justify Clinton's actions, just trying show that both sides have thir warts.
And if we want to look at different treatment , while I don't think Clinton was right I think it's questionable whether he should've been put in a position to lie, I don't believe his affair was public business yet he was impeached for it.
On the other hand we have Reagan who conveniently forgets weapon sales to an enemy, something that is most assuredly public business, and he's deified for it.
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I wouldn't attempt to justify Clinton's actions, just trying show that both sides have thir warts.
Yes, they do. I consider myself a conservative, but frown when I see the politicians who call themselves conservatives these days. Then I frown again when I look at the democrats as an alternative.
I don't get excited about elections. I basically try to figure which option will leave me the least screwed. It seems that is now a roll of the dice as the campaign means nothing once the election is over, and that goes for both sides.
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