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Old 08-25-2009, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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if it wasn't on google how did I find it then? I googled this phrase " north carolina gun law shooting a criminal who is escaping" The source I quoted is the FIRST result. lol good lord YOUR local station reported NC law regarding this sort of matter. You have done nothing to disprove the stations reporting or the credibility of the source quoted. I have yet to see any "mis-spelled words" but if you have may I suggest you contact the editor of YOUR local tv station and complain.


that is the abc affiliate here in Charlotte. It wasn't on google.
It doesn't fly in my face, it is nothing more than excerpts that have mis-spelled words. That holds no credibility. None whatsoever.

You didn't search for THE LAWS, you searched for a news story.
There is a difference.
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since readin' and 'riting doesn't appear to be of high priority in OK, here you go.

(4) Deadly Force in Defence of Others
A Citizen may intervene and use deadly force in defence of another person when, under the facts and circumstances, it reasonably appeared necessary to save the other person from imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault but only to the extent the other person was entitled to use deadly force in self-defence.



If you want to play then you should really just search LAW.....and get it from the horses mouth. Maybe when you grow up you can learn those type of things. LOL!
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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defense and defence are interchangeable I can't help but notice you've totally ignored the point of the story which is NC law. You are now fixated on a word YOU think is misspelled when in fact defence is not misspelled.
Defense or defence (see -ce/-se) may refer to: Tactics and strategy of defending against an attack. ALSO since you say the source I quoted is NOT NC law what is YOUR source regarding the law in this situation?

since readin' and 'riting doesn't appear to be of high priority in OK, here you go.

(4) Deadly Force in Defence of Others
A Citizen may intervene and use deadly force in defence of another person when, under the facts and circumstances, it reasonably appeared necessary to save the other person from imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault but only to the extent the other person was entitled to use deadly force in self-defence.



If you want to play then you should really just search LAW.....and get it from the horses mouth. Maybe when you grow up you can learn those type of things. LOL![/quote]
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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Well I guess I've "edumicated" Kitty enough for one night
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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defense and defence are interchangeable I can't help but notice you've totally ignored the point of the story which is NC law. You are now fixated on a word YOU think is misspelled when in fact defence is not misspelled.
Defense or defence (see -ce/-se) may refer to: Tactics and strategy of defending against an attack. ALSO since you say the source I quoted is NOT NC law what is YOUR source regarding the law in this situation?

since readin' and 'riting doesn't appear to be of high priority in OK, here you go.

(4) Deadly Force in Defence of Others
A Citizen may intervene and use deadly force in defence of another person when, under the facts and circumstances, it reasonably appeared necessary to save the other person from imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault but only to the extent the other person was entitled to use deadly force in self-defence.



If you want to play then you should really just search LAW.....and get it from the horses mouth. Maybe when you grow up you can learn those type of things. LOL!
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I haven't been searching for law..YOU are the one who brought it up. No one else....you are the one claiming to be proficient at interpreting law. Not working real well for you...LOL

maybe you will have it figured out before bedtime....nite, nite..
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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Well I guess I've "edumicated" Kitty enough for one night


not hardly wee one....

go do your homework and get in the bed for school tomorrow.....
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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So you admit you have no source and can't prove my source wrong? GOOD FOR YOU! This coming from someone who insisted on a link instead of doing her own research based on my source. LOL geesh


I haven't been searching for law..YOU are the one who brought it up. No one else....you are the one claiming to be proficient at interpreting law. Not working real well for you...LOL

maybe you will have it figured out before bedtime....nite, nite..[/quote]
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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There is no duty to retreat before using deadly force if the assault threatens imminent death or great bodily harm - a murderous or felonious assault or sexual assault.
Yes, there were two 'crime scenes', I get that...that was my point. He can't have been the aggressor in the latter scenario and still claim self defense.

IF he was only following them in his car to see where they were going and they pull a gun on him...there is a new threat...one that justifies use of deadly force.

But we don't know the facts yet, and we aren't lawyers, even if we have mastered google.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Near the water
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So you admit you have no source and can't prove my source wrong? GOOD FOR YOU! This coming from someone who insisted on a link instead of doing her own research based on my source. LOL geesh


I haven't been searching for law..YOU are the one who brought it up. No one else....you are the one claiming to be proficient at interpreting law. Not working real well for you...LOL

maybe you will have it figured out before bedtime....nite, nite..
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You were the one who brought up the *source*. You were asked to put up or shut up. Which you didn't do. You did NOT put up law. You put up excerpts of laws. That leaves a lot to be desired and hold no water.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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Yes, there were two 'crime scenes', I get that...that was my point. He can't have been the aggressor in the latter scenario and still claim self defense.

IF he was only following them in his car to see where they were going and they pull a gun on him...there is a new threat...one that justifies use of deadly force.

But we don't know the facts yet, and we aren't lawyers, even if we have mastered google.
LOL! Yep, not an attorney.

And anyway . . . as you said . . . we don't have all the facts yet. However, there are many folks here in Charlotte asking where to contribute money for Mr. McClure's defense fund, should one be needed.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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NC law clearly states that the homeowner has no right to escalate the situation to deadly force and that he also has an obligation to retreat to avoid deadly force and that he may NOT chase the suspects. The homeowner did all of the above.


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LOL! Yep, not an attorney.

And anyway . . . as you said . . . we don't have all the facts yet. However, there are many folks here in Charlotte asking where to contribute money for Mr. McClure's defense fund, should one be needed.
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