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Reagan did in the 1980s. We left our buddies in Afghanistan with plenty of cash, arms, ammunition and power. We paid for it again when they came back to bite us and succeeded.
Then Bush went after them, only to be distracted by a bunch of lies and misinformation, and headed into Iraq. Afghanistan was forgotten, the purpose was no more. It was all about "Iraqi freedom". Taliban and AQ loved it and got the opportunity to expand its roots.
Now, you're proposing the same mistakes that we've already committed TWICE in two decades. If you have another solution besides folding up, forgetting the sacrifice of hundreds of soldiers who died for a reason, please provide so you can help your country. Unlike the republican candidate for president, who apparently knows how to go get Osama Bin Laden (and apparently will tell only if he were elected).
Not me, this is what the left, has been proposing for years. Barry ran on and was elected in a large part because he was going to bring the troops home. I never thought it was a good idea but that's what the left was so pizzed about and insisted that Bush bring the troops home. Never once did I hear a leftist think it would be committing the same mistake we've made in the past.
They just wanted Bush to make the mistake so they wouldn't have to.
Obama NEVER intended to bring the troops home. He really didn't change things in Iraq either. He's on the same withdrawal schedule that Bush proposed.
As for Afghanistan, it is Barry's war now. He is escalating it, he is the Commander in Chief. Things there aren't any better or worse than when Bush took us in, so whatever goes on their rests squarely on Obama's shoulders.
Not me, this is what the left, has been proposing for years. Barry ran on and was elected in a large part because he was going to bring the troops home. I never thought it was a good idea but that's what the left was so pizzed about and insisted that Bush bring the troops home. Never once did I hear a leftist think it would be committing the same mistake we've made in the past.
They just wanted Bush to make the mistake so they wouldn't have to.
Can you make a point without a lie or a misrepresentation? Or is it too much to ask?
Obama was against the war in Iraq. He promised to end it and bring the troops home. He's worked at it. There's a timeline on that. But, we're NOT discussing Iraq in this thread.
I don't know who or what you were listening to, but Obama take on Afghanistan was refreshing. He seemed to understand the problem and how the difficulties we face. He seemed to have learned from the mistakes committed in the 1980s. This is NOT an Afghanistan issue, this is a Hindukush region issue, the mountain range that extends from Afghanistan, thru Pakistan and into Kashmir. He talked about working with the government and focusing on Al Qaeda. He was very clear about Pakistan's role in the whole issue, to help stabilize the region before we can even begin to consider moving out.
Obama NEVER intended to bring the troops home. He really didn't change things in Iraq either. He's on the same withdrawal schedule that Bush proposed.
As for Afghanistan, it is Barry's war now. He is escalating it, he is the Commander in Chief. Things there aren't any better or worse than when Bush took us in, so whatever goes on their rests squarely on Obama's shoulders.
The neocons thoroughly BOTCHED Afghanistan, they did little to nothing for 6 years but make the tactical situation worse there.
Unfortunately President Obama is scared of being the one to end a mistake, the same problem that has plagued Presidents of both parties before him.
Afghanistan is a disaster, and Iraq was an extremely bloody mistake. Pouring troops or money into a fight in either place is doomed to fail. There is no measurement of "success", and the "security" excuse is a fraud. Having "our guys" in charge doesnt mean more security: It just means we side with those practicing the brutality and killing.
Hopefully the President comes to his senses about Afghanistan, but now that he is in the White House it seems he is much more content to get his war on.
Hopefully the President comes to his senses about Afghanistan, but now that he is in the White House it seems he is much more content to get his war on.
What is the solution? Its repercussions? Who should be held accountable when things in the region go haywire?
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