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Old 08-26-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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If employers choose to offer good benefits to its employees, more power to them. Let them offer any benefit package they darn well please. It's a necessary evil for employers. It's one way they use to hold on to (or attract) good employees.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Until now the City of El Paso has offered health benefits only to employees, their married partners and their dependents. At a recent city hall meeting this was extended to unmarried partners including gay partners

I am struck at the comments (in link) that employers, especially public sector employers, should not extend any health benefits to any dependents - that married employees should not recieve any more benefits than single employees.



Public speech: The domestic partner debate - Newspaper Tree El Paso
That is just stupid. Only the "party of family values" would say such drivel that ones wife and kids should not have medical insurance.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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That is just stupid. Only the "party of family values" would say such drivel that ones wife and kids should not have medical insurance.
Yeah didn't Michael Steel say that same-sex marriage costs small businesses?
Well heck, wouldn't ALL marriage and procreation cost small businesses if they have to provide health care for everyone?
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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yeah drive your employer bankrupt and then cry about getting laid off good idea
it's not about making the employer bankrupt. It is totally about distributing the resources fairly in the workplace and not favoring one group over another.
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:35 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm not a fan of employee provided insurance and think they should just get out of that business entirely and turn the $ over to the employees to buy their own coverage.
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:36 PM
 
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If employers choose to offer good benefits to its employees, more power to them. Let them offer any benefit package they darn well please. It's a necessary evil for employers. It's one way they use to hold on to (or attract) good employees.
In the US it is...
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:40 PM
 
Location: California
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It's one way they use to hold on to (or attract) good employees.
Pfft. I bet anyone could be replaced with someone equal or better in today's economy. I don't buy this particular excuse for insanely high salaries, perks, or bonuses either.
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:59 PM
 
Location: mancos
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I meant as long as the employee is paying for it you dumb*****.
hey all is good stop hitting yourself in the head my friend
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:12 PM
 
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I think it's pretty fair since most employers offer coverage for dependents.
I also think it would be nice if people could get health insurance for say their parents. If the employee is paying for it, why should it matter who they cover?

As long as everyone has an equal chance to get the ones they cared for covered, I don't care.
Most employers do not offer coverage for dependents.

I worked in the public sector (teacher) for 37 years. My employer paid for my coverage only. I paid for dependent coverage.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Insurance benefits are part of compensation and need to be spread evenly, not favoring one group or another. when i took a job for a Co with a generous healthcare benefit, I noticed that the Co paid a little over $9k in annual premiums for an empl + Family but only about $4,500-5K for me (a single employee). When I negotiated the base salary, I asked for $5k more than my married with kids counterpart, b/c she was after all earning more comp than me b/c of her marital status (unfair). They gladly paid me the extra $5K. Everyone needs to study these plans at their workplace and place their input so that nobody gets screwed with.
Exactly...it's just a form of compensation that you should consider when negotiating your salary....of course if you're in a union you can't do that.
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