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And almost every nation has lower populations, less cars on the road, less murders, etc. But let's not do too much research into where those numbers all come from, as we don't want to get in the way of your rhetoric.
In every age category Canada has lower death rates than the USA - even when accounting for cause for of death.
Top 5 causes of death by cause and age category:
Flickr Photo Download: Mortality Rates by Age and Cause (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41038613@N05/3780501366/sizes/o/ - broken link)
Mortality rates by age group:
Flickr Photo Download: Mortality Rates by Age (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41038613@N05/3779602953/sizes/o/ - broken link)
I would forgo a public health care plan for a ban on hand guns.
Be our guest.
While lawbreakers don't really care about handgun bans (hence the term "lawbreaker")...you go ahead and click those red ruby slippers together!
No fan of the thinking that gubmint invtervention into health care will save anyone money here, either.
What did I see the other day regarding C4C? $2.8 billion bucks spent to hand out only $1.4 billion in vouchers so far. So, the gubmint is 33% efficient, which is better than I thought--not saying much there, though.
Lame. In the late 40s victorious England decided to go social in its health delivery system. Completely taken over by the English government akin to the Soviets with some private insurance companies. Germany on the other hand has a complete mix public and private, most is private but the insurance companies in Germany are regulated sufficiently like it should be here in the states.
The OP has opined on how good Germany is in terms of their UHC system. The high level of discipline, etc. It seems fair to make some comparisons. Nazism relied on the obedience and discipline of the German sheeple. Figure he could run with it a bit. Not the bad part of Nazism of course with the genocide and warmongering, but the good parts instead.
In every age category Canada has lower death rates than the USA - even when accounting for cause for of death.
Top 5 causes of death by cause and age category:
Flickr Photo Download: Mortality Rates by Age and Cause (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41038613@N05/3780501366/sizes/o/ - broken link)
Mortality rates by age group:
Flickr Photo Download: Mortality Rates by Age (http://www.flickr.com/photos/41038613@N05/3779602953/sizes/o/ - broken link)
You still can't draw a conclusion about the healthcare systems from this. It's simply stating what people are dying from at each age. In some age groups we're more likely to die from heart disease than cancer and in some, it's cancer. That's the same for them. It doesn't say that you would live longer if you were getting care under one system versus the other.
#1 - That our citizens are not critical thinkers. It's easier for them to label someone an idiot or wingnut, it's easier for them to find a fact and run with it, than it is for them to think the fact through to discover why the fact is a fact.
Brings me to my point.
I am ashamed:
#2 - That we are one of the fattest, most obese countries in the world. Fast food nation, potato chips and soda. Maybe that is why our life expectancy is less than other countries. Do you think that has anything to do with it? Yes!
We have in my opinion about 40 million illegals in America and they are pouring in from 3rd world countries with all kinds of health problems; they are counted in the deaths.
I might add, a government health plan for 400,000,000 people is insane; plus you will not be asked if you are legal so all the illegals will get the same doctors you do, free, free, free, as you pay taxes through the nose.
You still can't draw a conclusion about the healthcare systems from this. It's simply stating what people are dying from at each age. In some age groups we're more likely to die from heart disease than cancer and in some, it's cancer. That's the same for them. It doesn't say that you would live longer if you were getting care under one system versus the other.
But what part of the access to medical care you don't understand? In the free world this is not an issue except the States. Many working people in the states forgo medical care for many reasons including exclusion from insurance and the costs. In europe there is no excuse not to see a doctor. Connect the dots.
But what part of the access to medical care you don't understand? In the free world this is not an issue except the States. Many working people in the states forgo medical care for many reasons including exclusion from insurance and the costs. In europe there is no excuse not to see a doctor. Connect the dots.
As I pointed out, the data offered does not allow a conclusion to be reached either way regarding the healthcare systems, and that is all I pointed out. I never said anything about one versus the other. I never said I thought our system was perfect and didn't need some change. I'm just not willing to accept statistics that do not lead to a real conclusion as meaning that we need a system like the Canadian system.
If comparisons with other countries are to be dismissed then what is the basis of the claims that socialized medicine will kill old folks (no evidence of this in other countries) and "America has the world's best healthcare system"?
Look how low the USA ranks in life expectancy. Right next to Puerto Rico. We ought to be ashamed! Almost every nation that is higher than us enjoys public healthcare or at least "the public option"!
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