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Old 08-27-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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Promising ovarian cancer drug not covered by Medicare in Colorado - The Denver Post

This article is a perfect example of how GRHC is/will = rationing.
It's already happening with Medicare.
Why do you think 'Obamacare' will be any different??
Yeah, thought so. That's because it WON'T.
Private insurance co's already are stating that they will do away with the 'preexisting clauses'. Now, just solve the problem of covering the 'legal' uninsured.
Solution for increasing health care insurance costs? Open up the state borders and create a much higher level of competition, how about that?
Gee what a much simpler solution!
With that said, simple is a foreign word to the Libs and Obama.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Promising ovarian cancer drug not covered by Medicare in Colorado - The Denver Post

This article is a perfect example of how GRHC is/will = rationing.
It's already happening with Medicare.
Why do you think 'Obamacare' will be any different??
Yeah, thought so. That's because it WON'T.
Private insurance co's already are stating that they will do away with the 'preexisting clauses'. Now, just solve the problem of covering the 'legal' uninsured.
Solution for increasing health care insurance costs? Open up the state borders and create a much higher level of competition, how about that?
Gee what a much simpler solution!
With that said, simple is a foreign word to the Libs and Obama.
Could you please specify which HMO's and other Insurance companies are willing to pay for this treatment? Thanks a bunch!
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It occurs to me that what is intended to be an arugment against health care reform, is actually a good case against "states rights". . . .
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Could you please specify which HMO's and other Insurance companies are willing to pay for this treatment? Thanks a bunch!
And while you're at it, give some evidence for this statement:

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Private insurance co's already are stating that they will do away with the 'preexisting clauses'. Now, just solve the problem of covering the 'legal' uninsured.
My daughter just bought private insurance and had to list every condition she had for the past five years. I'm talking two weeks ago.

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Solution for increasing health care insurance costs? Open up the state borders and create a much higher level of competition, how about that?
Gee what a much simpler solution!
With that said, simple is a foreign word to the Libs and Obama.
For every problem there is a solution which is simple, obvious, and wrong - Albert Einstein
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Promising ovarian cancer drug not covered by Medicare in Colorado - The Denver Post

This article is a perfect example of how GRHC is/will = rationing.
It's already happening with Medicare.
Why do you think 'Obamacare' will be any different??
Yeah, thought so. That's because it WON'T.
Private insurance co's already are stating that they will do away with the 'preexisting clauses'. Now, just solve the problem of covering the 'legal' uninsured.
Solution for increasing health care insurance costs? Open up the state borders and create a much higher level of competition, how about that?
Gee what a much simpler solution!
With that said, simple is a foreign word to the Libs and Obama.

In fight for life, insurer no help

Oh yes!! Wonder PRIVATE insurance will certainly cover this drug!! Depends on where you RESIDE and how much you bug them. If you live in- let's say Indiana- you DIE and if you live in Washington- you LIVE!

Politics Central: Werewolves of Wellpoint (http://politicscentral.com/2007/01/09/werewolves_of_wellpoint.php - broken link)


Last year, for instance, Blue Cross retroactively denied my doctor payment for a treatment called Avastin - even after two CT scans showed it had been working - because at the time it was still technically experimental. (It has since been approved for lung cancer.)

I appealed to Blue Cross, and got a call from one of its medical directors, Dr. Richard Lehrfeld, who explained that he was upholding the retroactive denial because “If I keep garlic over my bed to keep away werewolves, and there aren’t werewolf attacks for five months… well, the logic is faulty there.”


http://www.ibdcure.org/WSJ.pdf (broken link)

May Chin-Louis, 44 years old, has a ballooning brain tumor. Her doctors wanted to attack it with a
colon-cancer drug that has shown promise in treating brain tumors.
But for four months, Ms. Chin-Louis's insurer, WellPoint Inc., refused to pay for the drug, called
Avastin. It costs about $8,000 a dose, every other week. A WellPoint spokesman says it denied coverage
initially because there isn't sufficient medical evidence proving Avastin is effective against brain tumors.


The PRIVATE insuance companies just hope you will DIE and not give them too much trouble! Sometimes though patients manage to live long enough to appeal.

Pushing Back When Insurers Deny Coverage for Treatment

Ms. Hines said her insurer, ConnectiCare Inc., a subsidiary of Health Insurance Plan of Greater New York, had raised various objections to Avastin, including that there wasn't evidence the treatment would work for someone, like her, who had previously taken Tarceva, another cancer drug. In August, the state's reviewer ruled that Avastin was medically necessary because Ms. Hines would be getting it with first-line chemotherapy, its approved use. "It was such a sense of relief," she says.
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