Gays are a threat to the public good (parade, Jesus, programs)
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gay men have been banned from donating blood for over 25 years. the ban was put into place in 1983.
so how exactly were they "poisoning america's blood supply" in the 90s?
the fact is, if a gay man has one partner in his life, and he is that partner's only partner, he is at no more risk of contracting HIV than anyone else. blood donation restrictions should be based on behavior, not orientation. for instance the question could be are you a gay man who has had unprotected sex with more than one partner since 1980 or whatever. i think this is a fair distinction to make and gay rights organizations are right to fight for it. saying that gay rights orgs want (or wanted) to infect more people with HIV is just loony.
The vast majority of people are heterosexual. The vast majority of rapists, murderers, paedophiles, wife beaters, terrorists, thieves, vandals etc are heterosexual.
Therefore...heterosexuals are apparently a far bigger threat to the public good than homosexuals.
gay men have been banned from donating blood for over 25 years. the ban was put into place in 1983.
so how exactly were they "poisoning america's blood supply" in the 90s?
the fact is, if a gay man has one partner in his life, and he is that partner's only partner, he is at no more risk of contracting HIV than anyone else. blood donation restrictions should be based on behavior, not orientation. for instance the question could be are you a gay man who has had unprotected sex with more than one partner since 1980 or whatever. i think this is a fair distinction to make and gay rights organizations are right to fight for it. saying that gay rights orgs want (or wanted) to infect more people with HIV is just loony.
The documentary was done in the 90's. Many gay's now as well as then engage in unprotected group sex as I am sure you well know. I am not trying to stereotype all gays as indulging in reckless behavior, but there is a segment of the gay population that are very reckless and for some reason that behavior is tolerated, and not criticized by the community at large. If it were not for that behavior we would not have the problem with HIV today.
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Originally Posted by jimhcom
The documentary was done in the 90's. Many gay's now as well as then engage in unprotected group sex as I am sure you well know. I am not trying to stereotype all gays as indulging in reckless behavior, but there is a segment of the gay population that are very reckless and for some reason that behavior is tolerated, and not criticized by the community at large. If it were not for that behavior we would not have the problem with HIV today.
Because of the stereotype you espouse, many heterosexuals avoid HIV testing & therefore endanger themselves & their sexual counterparts.
The documentary was done in the 90's. Many gay's now as well as then engage in unprotected group sex as I am sure you well know. I am not trying to stereotype all gays as indulging in reckless behavior, but there is a segment of the gay population that are very reckless and for some reason that behavior is tolerated, and not criticized by the community at large. If it were not for that behavior we would not have the problem with HIV today.
this is a far cry from the claims you previously made.
are you sure you have the name of the documentary right? i can't find any information about it at all. what time period was the documentary covering? you said it was about when the epidemic started in the 90s (even though it started in the 80s).
you said that gay rights organizations tried, and apparently succeeded, at getting rid of restrictions on gay men donating blood (despite the fact that that restriction has never been lifted by the red cross since its inception) and intentionally introduced HIV+ blood into blood banks (despite the fact that testing of blood donations for HIV started in 1985).
you also said that almost all hemophiliacs in the US died of AIDS due to this. there has to be some kind of information to be found about this happening. please find it and show it to me.
Wrong, to understand the truth about this you have to go back to the 1990's when these epidemics were beginning. There was a program done by PBS in the 90's titled "The Poisoning of the American Blood Supply" in which they documented the pressure gay rights organizations put on the American Red Cross to use blood from the gay community knowing full well that it was contaminated. The belief of these organizations at the time, was that by infecting the general population, it would increase emphasis on finding a cure. The direct effect was the death of most hemophiliacs at that time. It was the reckless behavior of the gay community that began this epidemic, and how it is spread now is irrelevant.
And aliens started the human race and Elvis is alive and well and living in Tuscon.
yes, a lot of hemophiliacs, about half, did contract HIV in the late 70s and early 80s. most of these infections happened before doctors fully understood how the virus was transmitted.
so where's the giant gay conspiracy to infect people with AIDS again?
The documentary was done in the 90's. Many gay's now as well as then engage in unprotected group sex as I am sure you well know. I am not trying to stereotype all gays as indulging in reckless behavior, but there is a segment of the gay population that are very reckless and for some reason that behavior is tolerated, and not criticized by the community at large. If it were not for that behavior we would not have the problem with HIV today.
1. Name of documentary.
2. Prove your "wild gay orgy" comment.
3. How many heteroes do you think indulge in "risky sexual behavior" and are, in fact, infected with HIV/AIDs?
What you have offered here so far is empty bigoted and hateful propeganda and rhetoric pushed by anti-gay religious organizations.
this is a far cry from the claims you previously made.
are you sure you have the name of the documentary right? i can't find any information about it at all. what time period was the documentary covering? you said it was about when the epidemic started in the 90s (even though it started in the 80s).
you said that gay rights organizations tried, and apparently succeeded, at getting rid of restrictions on gay men donating blood (despite the fact that that restriction has never been lifted by the red cross since its inception) and intentionally introduced HIV+ blood into blood banks (despite the fact that testing of blood donations for HIV started in 1985).
you also said that almost all hemophiliacs in the US died of AIDS due to this. there has to be some kind of information to be found about this happening. please find it and show it to me.
In the first place let me say I am not here to do your research for you. Secondly I do not expect you to believe anything regardless of how much proof I supply due to your bias on the subject. That being said; here is a link for an article discussing the show. While it is extremely politically incorrect, it is factual, and I do not think anyone can accuse Frontline of being anti gay. Review/Television; On AIDS and the Nation's Blood Supply - The New York Times
In the first place let me say I am not here to do your research for you. Secondly I do not expect you to believe anything regardless of how much proof I supply due to your bias on the subject. That being said; here is a link for an article discussing the show. While it is extremely politically incorrect, it is factual, and I do not think anyone can accuse Frontline of being anti gay. Review/Television; On AIDS and the Nation's Blood Supply - The New York Times
it's not MY research when YOU make a claim and fail to back it up.
and your original post has an incorrect name for the documentary. how exactly am i supposed to find anything out when you've given us bad information to begin with?
finally, the article that you linked to says absolutely nothing about gay rights groups deliberately tainting the blood supply with HIV, only that some groups complained about infringements on their civil rights when the red cross tried to ban gay men from giving blood. it mostly faults blood banks for stalling on instituting testing of all donations.
i'd think that if, as you claim, the documentary actually shows that gay groups deliberately and knowingly introduced HIV into the blood supply, it would be a big enough deal to be at least mentioned in the article, if not making the headline.
i am seriously wondering if you've actually seen this documentary or if you just read about it on some blog or something.
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