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View Poll Results: Are gays a threat to the public good?
Yes 36 12.16%
No 244 82.43%
Maybe 2 0.68%
Sometimes 12 4.05%
I don't know 2 0.68%
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:41 PM
 
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What torment did your gay friends go through?


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If someone got to see first hand the torment of what my gay friends have gone through they would never say it's simply a 'choice'.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:43 PM
 
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It's much easier to change homophobia (an irrational fear, anxiety, and hatred) than it is to change a sexual orientation.

I suggest therapy for all HOMOPHOBES.

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Sorry, but the entire mental health profession says you are wrong.

We have a choice whether to follow the word of an ancient manuscript with questionable motives, or the psychiactric peer review group responsible for the DSM diagnosis and treatment codex used by most of the world.

I'll choose the science any day of the week.

And if you're going to make ignroant statements, either expect to get "trashed", don't make them, or even better, get educated on the matter.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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What torment did your gay friends go through?
Both verbal and physical abuse throughout high school (one ended up dropping out and going to continuation, which is how we met). One was also kicked out of his house at 14 because he came out to his religious parents, his dad actually hit him with his truck when he tried to come back a few weeks later.

It was the verbal abuse that really got to him though... we lived in a fairly small town and there weren't a whole lot of 'out of the closet' gay people at the time so everyone knew he was gay, regardless of the way he acted. None of that would have happened if he had 'chosen' to like girls.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Both verbal and physical abuse throughout high school (one ended up dropping out and going to continuation, which is how we met). One was also kicked out of his house at 14 because he came out to his religious parents, his dad actually hit him with his truck when he tried to come back a few weeks later.

It was the verbal abuse that really got to him though... we lived in a fairly small town and there weren't a whole lot of 'out of the closet' gay people at the time so everyone knew he was gay, regardless of the way he acted. None of that would have happened if he had 'chosen' to like girls.
Hitting your child with a vehicle? How sad and upsetting at the same time.

I have a cousin who I've always known is gay and his mother just thinks she can "beat the gay out of him."
Thank goodness my mom isn't like that. She accepted me immediately. At first she thought it was a phase but came to see that it wasn't.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:47 PM
 
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Hitting your child with a vehicle? How sad and upsetting at the same time.

I have a cousin who I've always known is gay and his mother just thinks she can "beat the gay out of him."
things like that happen all the time, and some people have the gall to use the high incidence of depression and suicide in gay teens as an argument that homosexuality is bad.

sick.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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Hitting your child with a vehicle? How sad and upsetting at the same time.

I have a cousin who I've always known is gay and his mother just thinks she can "beat the gay out of him."
Thank goodness my mom isn't like that. She accepted me immediately. At first she thought it was a phase but came to see that it wasn't.
I do not understand how a parent could act like that to their own child. Jet's story brought me to tears.

I got into a very heated argument with my mother when my kids were 9 and 3. She stated that she would 'disown' either of her grandchildren if she ever found out they were homosexual.

Suffice it to say I ripped her a new sphincter.

I told her in no uncertain terms that I had always been prepared to love my children if they were gay, and if she couldn't accept that, she could 'disown' me right then and there. Some people never find love...that is a tragedy. As long as my children are happy, they have my blessing to love without regard to gender.

To withhold love, support, and acceptance from a child simply because of their sexual orientation is unconscionable to me, and I made that abundantly clear to my mother.

Even though it took a few weeks (of my cold shoulder), my mother changed her tune.

When my daughter divulged 2 years ago that she was not certain of her sexual orientation, my mother did not disappoint. Neither did I.

My daughter never felt unloved...if she had, I wouldn't have done right by her.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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Family turning their back or becoming abusive to their kid just because their gay.....and they say gays have a problem. How utterly bass ackwards.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:30 PM
 
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Hitting your child with a vehicle? How sad and upsetting at the same time.

I have a cousin who I've always known is gay and his mother just thinks she can "beat the gay out of him."
Thank goodness my mom isn't like that. She accepted me immediately. At first she thought it was a phase but came to see that it wasn't.
Yep. He was waiting across the street to catch one of them (he didn't really feel comfortable knocking on the door and potentially dealing with both at the same time) and his dad locked the doors and backed into him while leaving. He then drove off without giving him a second glance. Sad thing is, he is currently living with his (straight) brother and his parents call all the time and invite the straight one over for Holidays/BBQs etc, but haven't even spoken to Joe (not his real name) in nearly 13 years.

It breaks my heart to see him disowned like that, but luckily my mom was so excited to 'finally have a gay son' that he just fit into my family with no questions asked
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:11 PM
 
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Worse, let's not forget too that homosexuals are also murdered for being gay.
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:57 PM
 
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They need to tie in that some people target gay teenagers to bully and harass. That would make any normal person depressed and possibly suicidal if the harassment was on going.



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things like that happen all the time, and some people have the gall to use the high incidence of depression and suicide in gay teens as an argument that homosexuality is bad.

sick.
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