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It's like when Hitler took over as chancellor and enacted the enabling act. It's just a little more power. Government is already centralized, why not a little more? And a little more? And a little more? Etc...
BTW, the background on the video makes me really really really really sick....
No, but people in my immediate family do and they are thankful for those benefits. One family Vet just had a major surgery and is recovering. Without this "socialized medicine" he'd never have had the surgery and would never walk.
Think about your situation. You said you use both. What would you do without them?
I'd rather have the private insurance I had before, I know that... No it was not perfect but still better than medicare or the VA.
The VA is NOT "socialized medicine", it's something a Veteran earns...
Try getting an appointment at the VA because you are feeling bad one morning when you wake up...It's NOT going to happen.. You have to go in and be on sort of a stand by to see a doctor if you do get to see one at all. and If you don't see one that day you can come back in tomorrow and start the wait all over.
Been there done that.....
I'd rather have the private insurance I had before, I know that... No it was not perfect but still better than medicare or the VA.
The VA is NOT "socialized medicine", it's something a Veteran earns...
Try getting an appointment at the VA because you are feeling bad one morning when you wake up...It's NOT going to happen.. You have to go in and be on sort of a stand by to see a doctor if you do get to see one at all. and If you don't see one that day you can come back in tomorrow and start the wait all over.
Been there done that.....
You didn't answer my question..What would you do without your YES "socialized medicine"...You evidently couldn't keep your private insurance for whatever reason..
Also, you can't just show up to most private Dr.s without an appointment and even with one the wait time can be very long. Long waits are not exclusive to medicaire/VA.
Your assertion doesn't hold water because medicaire/medicaide and the VA operate effeciently(more effeciently than the private industry as easily depicted by the video). A government option wont take anything away from people who dont want it.
lmbo@ The va operates effeciently
"There's going to be some people who are going to have to give up some things, honestly, for all of this to work," Markey said at a Congress on Your Corner event at CSU. "But we have to do this because we're Americans." Markey: Medicare will take hit | coloradoan.com | The Coloradoan,
Well, half of the population is on that basic [caveman] level of reasoning, so they need a children's picture book to get an idea what 'socialized' or nationalized care actually is.
Half of this board don't even understand the difference between communism and socialism! And many of them imagine that by having better healthcare, the national flag will magically change to some other continents flag - and they will be controlled and run by Russia...
Wingnut is a gentle term to describe this kind of idiotic reasoning.
"There's going to be some people who are going to have to give up some things, honestly, for all of this to work," Markey said at a Congress on Your Corner event at CSU. "But we have to do this because we're Americans." Markey: Medicare will take hit | coloradoan.com | The Coloradoan,
LMAO...private insurance (DOES NOT) works effectively, efficiently or consistently. Here's my question to you. If you don't like government run healthcare, why are you and so many cons all of a sudden supporting medicaire? I guess you realized old people would be mad..I also don't think old people actually realized they were using government run healthcare.
Does anyone here get up in the morning and work for free? No you don't I work for the #2 Cancer hospital in America. We use tons of equiptment much of it on the cutting edge of Med. tech. Do you think that GE spends millions and millions of dollars on R&D to make a product simply out of the goodness of their hearts? No, they don't they do it for money. Sad as that seems these are the facts. Reimbursment is going WAY DOWN on the procedures that we do under this "plan". That means eventually we will have to downsize, I'll most likely lose my job. That was from a meeting my department had. So I'd rather keep my job which I chose BECAUSE it gave me health benefits than lose the job and not be able to eat.
Yeah,yeah, I know, it says Fox.......read it anyway.
"The latest talking points, delivered by top Democrats and echoed in a town hall question to Republican Senator John McCain, is that government-run health care would be good because Medicare is more efficient than private insurance.
Not so fast, says Fox News analyst James Farrell: ..........."
LMAO...private insurance (DOES NOT) works effectively, efficiently or consistently. Here's my question to you. If you don't like government run healthcare, why are you and so many cons all of a sudden supporting medicaire? I guess you realized old people would be mad..I also don't think old people actually realized they were using government run healthcare.
You said the gov wont take anything away and it appears you are wrong.
Name the gov program that is not short on cash? That is running with a surplus.
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