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Old 08-31-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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I like neither party. They are both shams.
Yes, they are. But that doesn't mean that one of them isn't much, much worse than the other...
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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A free trip to the Republican convention in 2012!
Are you sure there's going to be one?
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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There should be a czar for this entire Administration called the Bizarre.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Bush Czars:

Scott Evertz, Joe O'Neill, Carol Thompson, Neel Kashkari, Leon Kass, Stewart Simonson, Mitch Daniels, Joshua Bolten, Jesse Roberson, James Rispoli, Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom, Karl Rove, John Walters, Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein, David Acheson, Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul, John Howard, David Brailer, Michael Chertoff, Donald Powell, John Negroponte, Mike McConnell, Albert Frink, Bill Sutton, Reid Lyon, John Graham, Susan Dudley, John Marburger, Wayne Downing, John Brennan, and Douglas Lute.

What do I win?
Scott Evertz Not a czar. firts appointed by Clinton

Scott Evertz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scott Evertz (born in Washington, DC) is currently the Vice President for International Affairs, OraSure Technologies. Prior to that, he was the first openly gay director of the Office of National AIDS Policy,[1] first started by Bill Clinton, and was appointed by George W. Bush. He has also has served as president of the Wisconsin Log Cabin Republicans, a branch of the largest gay Republican organization in the country, and raised funds for the Wisconsin Right to Life.

Joe O'Neill Stae Dept is not a czar
President Bush Names Acting AIDS Adviser Carol Thompson as Office of National AIDS Policy Director - The Body

Dr. Joe O'Neill to the State Department Office of the Global AIDS Coordinator in August 2003 (Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS

Carol Thompson Not Czar
President Bush Names Acting AIDS Adviser Carol Thompson as Office of National AIDS Policy Director - The Body

President Bush on Wednesday named Carol Thompson director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy,




Neel T. Kashkari Not a czar Worked in the Dept of treasury
Neel Kashkari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Hindi/Kashmiri: नील काशकारी) (born July 30, 1973) is the Interim Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability in the United States Department of the Treasury. In this role, he heads the Office of Financial Stability, the office set up to buy troubled financial assets from U.S. financial firms under the $700 billion U.S. Government Troubled Asset Relief Program. Kashkari joined the Treasury Department in July 2006 as Senior Advisor to U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and was later appointed as the Assistant Secretary for International Economics and Development, a title he held through May 1, 2009, though his international affairs responsibilities are delegated to

Leon Kass Not a Czar served on a council

Leon Kass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

President's Council on Bioethics from 2001 to 2005. Although Kass is often referred to as a bioethicist,[1] he eschews the term and refers to himself as "an old-fashioned humanist. A humanist is concerned broadly with all aspects of human life, not just the ethical."[2]


Stewart Simonson Assistant Sec in public health not a czar
Stewart Simonson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

is the former Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). He assumed office on April 28, 2004. He told the president in a resignation letter May 13, 2006 that he had accomplished what he had set out to do, and it was time to move on.

Mitch Daniels
Governor Daniels: Home
Govenor of Indiana not a czar not even in federal govt.


Joshua Bolten white house chief of staff is not a czar unless you want to call every chief of staff a czar in that case add one more for Obama
Joshua Bolten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Joshua Brewster Bolten (born August 16, 1954) was the White House Chief of Staff serving U.S. President George W. Bush. Bolten replaced Andrew Card on April 14, 2006.


Ms. Jesse Roberson
Assistant Sec for envioremental Managemt is not a czar

Prepared Witness Testimony: Roberson, Jesse (http://republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/07172003hearing1014/Roberson1599.htm - broken link)


Assistant Secretary for Environmental Management
Department of Energy
1000 Independence Avenue, SW
Washington, DC, 20585


James Rispoli
http://www.csgmidwest.org/About/MRMTP/correspondence/Rispoli_August%202007.pdf (broken link)

Follwed Jesse Roberson as Assistant secretary for EM
Not a Czar


Richard Alan Clarke[1]

Richard A. Clarke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


(born October 1951) was a U.S. government employee for 30 years, 1973–2003. He worked for the State Department during the presidency of Ronald Reagan.[2] Following the presidency of George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton promoted Clarke to be the chief counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council. Under President George W. Bush Clarke no longer had cabinet-level access, but continued in the same position until his retirement in January 2003, serving as a member of the Senior Executive Service, specializing in intelligence, cyber security and counter-terrorism.[citation needed] He was thus a part of the executive branch at the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Not a czar
Richard A. Clarke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Rod Beckstrom Not a czar

Rod Beckstrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



is an author, high-tech entrepreneur, and Fulbright scholar. He is CEO and President of ICANN.
He previously served as Director of the National Cyber Security Center. Prior to that Beckstrom was Chairman and Chief Catalyst of TWIKI.NET, a company which supports TWiki, an open source wiki. He was also co-founder, Chairman

i have goen through half yoru list and not one had a title of Czar. I dotn have the time to complete research on yoru list.

WHAT DO YOU WIN? Nothing you did not name a CZar or one person with the title of Czar

I ask again what peopel in the Bush Adm, had the tiltle of Czar
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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Scott Evertz Not a czar. firts appointed by Clinton

Scott Evertz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scott Evertz (born in Washington, DC) is currently the Vice President for International Affairs, OraSure Technologies. Prior to that, he was the first openly gay director of the Office of National AIDS Policy,[1] first started by Bill Clinton, and was appointed by George W. Bush. He has also has served as president of the Wisconsin Log Cabin Republicans, a branch of the largest gay Republican organization in the country, and raised funds for the Wisconsin Right to Life.

Joe O'Neill Stae Dept is not a czar
President Bush Names Acting AIDS Adviser Carol Thompson as Office of National AIDS Policy Director - The Body

Dr. Joe O'Neill to the State Department Office of the Global AIDS Coordinator in August 2003 (Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS

Carol Thompson Not Czar
President Bush Names Acting AIDS Adviser Carol Thompson as Office of National AIDS Policy Director - The Body

President Bush on Wednesday named Carol Thompson director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy,




Neel T. Kashkari Not a czar Worked in the Dept of treasury
Neel Kashkari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Hindi/Kashmiri: नील काशकारी) (born July 30, 1973) is the Interim Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability in the United States Department of the Treasury. In this role, he heads the Office of Financial Stability, the office set up to buy troubled financial assets from U.S. financial firms under the $700 billion U.S. Government Troubled Asset Relief Program. Kashkari joined the Treasury Department in July 2006 as Senior Advisor to U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and was later appointed as the Assistant Secretary for International Economics and Development, a title he held through May 1, 2009, though his international affairs responsibilities are delegated to

Leon Kass Not a Czar served on a council

Leon Kass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

President's Council on Bioethics from 2001 to 2005. Although Kass is often referred to as a bioethicist,[1] he eschews the term and refers to himself as "an old-fashioned humanist. A humanist is concerned broadly with all aspects of human life, not just the ethical."[2]


Stewart Simonson Assistant Sec in public health not a czar
Stewart Simonson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

is the former Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). He assumed office on April 28, 2004. He told the president in a resignation letter May 13, 2006 that he had accomplished what he had set out to do, and it was time to move on.

Mitch Daniels
Governor Daniels: Home
Govenor of Indiana not a czar not even in federal govt.


Joshua Bolten white house chief of staff is not a czar unless you want to call every chief of staff a czar in that case add one more for Obama
Joshua Bolten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Joshua Brewster Bolten (born August 16, 1954) was the White House Chief of Staff serving U.S. President George W. Bush. Bolten replaced Andrew Card on April 14, 2006.


Ms. Jesse Roberson
Assistant Sec for envioremental Managemt is not a czar

Prepared Witness Testimony: Roberson, Jesse (http://republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/07172003hearing1014/Roberson1599.htm - broken link)


Assistant Secretary for Environmental Management
Department of Energy
1000 Independence Avenue, SW
Washington, DC, 20585


James Rispoli
http://www.csgmidwest.org/About/MRMTP/correspondence/Rispoli_August%202007.pdf (broken link)

Follwed Jesse Roberson as Assistant secretary for EM
Not a Czar


Richard Alan Clarke[1]

Richard A. Clarke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


(born October 1951) was a U.S. government employee for 30 years, 1973–2003. He worked for the State Department during the presidency of Ronald Reagan.[2] Following the presidency of George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton promoted Clarke to be the chief counter-terrorism adviser on the U.S. National Security Council. Under President George W. Bush Clarke no longer had cabinet-level access, but continued in the same position until his retirement in January 2003, serving as a member of the Senior Executive Service, specializing in intelligence, cyber security and counter-terrorism.[citation needed] He was thus a part of the executive branch at the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Not a czar
Richard A. Clarke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Rod Beckstrom Not a czar

Rod Beckstrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



is an author, high-tech entrepreneur, and Fulbright scholar. He is CEO and President of ICANN.
He previously served as Director of the National Cyber Security Center. Prior to that Beckstrom was Chairman and Chief Catalyst of TWIKI.NET, a company which supports TWiki, an open source wiki. He was also co-founder, Chairman

i have goen through half yoru list and not one had a title of Czar. I dotn have the time to complete research on yoru list.

WHAT DO YOU WIN? Nothing you did not name a CZar or one person with the title of Czar

I ask again what peopel in the Bush Adm, had the tiltle of Czar
The drug czar.

That's the only official the Obama administration has referred to as a czar. And Bush also referred to his official in this capacity as a "czar." Otherwise, the SAME EXACT descriptions you used for the list above could be applied to the Obama officials that have been called "czars".
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The drug czar.

That's the only official the Obama administration has referred to as a czar. And Bush also referred to his official in this capacity as a "czar." Otherwise, the SAME EXACT descriptions you used for the list above could be applied to the Obama officials that have been called "czars".
Car Czar Ed Montgomery add to that list
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Car Czar Ed Montgomery add to that list
Really? Please provide a link.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Really? Please provide a link.

Car recovery czar Ed Montgomery says former General Motors facility in Flint known as Buick City needs help - MLive.com
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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The author of the article refers to Montgomery as "czar", but no one in the Obama administration does. Try again.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The author of the article refers to Montgomery as "czar", but no one in the Obama administration does. Try again.
Herald & Review Archives | Columnists: Obama's embrace of 'czars' a bad thing for democracy (http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2009/08/27/columnists/maclean/doc4a927e189c948662432887.txt - broken link)
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