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Old 09-01-2009, 08:50 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The solution these governments will come up with will be to raise taxes of course,never to cut costs....

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The recession is finally hitting city budgets, with overall city revenues inching down in fiscal 2009 for the first time since 2002, according to a report to be released Tuesday by the National League of Cities.

Weak growth in property taxes, reflecting soft housing prices, did not counterbalance sharp declines in other sources of income, including sales taxes, income taxes and state aid, according to a survey of 379 league member cities.

Overall city revenues declined by 0.4%, even as expenses rose 2.5%, and city officials expect steep drops in tax collections in the next two years, making for the worst outlook in the 24 years the group has been surveying its members. Western cities were particularly downbeat.

The gloomy mood "is indicative of the depths of the downturn, that they have the worst ahead of them, and the fact that the recession is universally hitting their revenue sources," said Chris Hoene, research director for the league.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125177344884874971.html
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Cities are going to have to learn to do more with less. They'll have to get with the program.

At least some will get to see CA crumble and witness the consequences of not trimming your budget.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:12 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It's going to get really ugly in the public schools. They already spend way too much taxpayer money per student without adequately educating most of the students.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: California
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It's going to get really ugly in the public schools. They already spend way too much taxpayer money per student without adequately educating most of the students.
The thing is, they could do so much better with so much less. It's only because they have been forced to be everything to everybody that they seem to fail. Get back to the basics of education, stop being a social services program, release those who are disruptive, or can't perform in the standard environment to their families and put the responsibility on them (where it belongs). Break the teachers union.

It can be done.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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The solution these governments will come up with will be to raise taxes of course,never to cut costs....

Cities Brace for a Prolonged Bout of Declining Tax Revenues - WSJ.com

They should go to all those banks they have bailed out, for a low interest loan...

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Old 09-01-2009, 01:30 PM
 
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The thing is, they could do so much better with so much less. It's only because they have been forced to be everything to everybody that they seem to fail. Get back to the basics of education, stop being a social services program, release those who are disruptive, or can't perform in the standard environment to their families and put the responsibility on them (where it belongs). Break the teachers union.

It can be done.
Excellent post. I couldn't agree more.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The thing is, they could do so much better with so much less. It's only because they have been forced to be everything to everybody that they seem to fail. Get back to the basics of education, stop being a social services program, release those who are disruptive, or can't perform in the standard environment to their families and put the responsibility on them (where it belongs). Break the teachers union.

It can be done.
Who's forcing them to be everything to everybody? The only students that public schools have to appropriately educate are the special ed students. They are the only students with the legal right to an appropriate education. All of the other students get only what public schools/states decide to provide.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Tax slumlords
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Tax slumlords
That won't work. Too many politicians are slumlords themselves.

Think Charlie Rangel.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Tax slumlords
And they pass along that cost by charging higher rent. The end user pays... not gonna work.
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