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Old 09-08-2009, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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That's true. I guess if the public option is not dead because the Dems ram it through, then the Dems will lose all power in 2010 and 2012.

Under this scenario, would the Repubs be willing/able to revoke the public option?

At this point I would like to see the public option rammed through. Obama has tried to have a bi-partisan bill and the Republicans have refused pretty much any attempt at a compromise or even an honest debate on the issue, so go for it ram it.

BTW, I won't even get into the house loses, but what are the 11 seats the Dems will lose in 2010 to give the power of the Senate back to the GOP?
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I kind of think they wouldn't have the guts to repeal this if it passes. An Aussie friend told me that although most Americans won't like socialized medicine, and it will be the result, they would never push to get rid of it just as the Aussies haven't.

I am afraid you may be correct.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:53 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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That's true. I guess if the public option is not dead because the Dems ram it through, then the Dems will lose all power in 2010 and 2012.

Under this scenario, would the Repubs be willing/able to revoke the public option?

I do not think so, that is why Obama, Reid and Pelosi are trying to ram this through without listening to the majority of the people.
They know it is hard to fix or repeal something like this once it is done.
So, we need to keep the pressure on to stop it now.

Do not fear, the dems are doing plenty of other stupid things to use against them in 2010 and 12. We wont need this as a tool against them, they are creating a mess that no one will forget come election time.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:53 PM
 
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Is there a better indicator of Americans standing up and saying NO to far left ideas which don't work, and saying YES to personal responsibility and freedom?
More like voting to sell themselves out to corporations that will/are ****ing them over.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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And now you are a LIAR as well. From yesterday:

Dems dont lie, they just make up stuff and pretend things are better.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:57 PM
 
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The dumbing down is a direct result of government interference in our education system. And, no government should not run our healthcare, Our government is too corupt to be allowed that much power and control over us. Healthcare needs to be addressed but not in the manner of the current proposal. Look at the Dept. of Energy, created to remove our dependence on foreign oil in the Carter Administration. It's grown into a huge department that has a massive budget and has not put us one step closer to independence from foriegn oil. Look at how the government handled New Orleans, And people want the government to handle our healthcare? That my friend is a true example of "The dumbing down of America"
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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And not suprisingly, now that odanny has been called, he has vanished.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:01 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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The dumbing down is a direct result of government interference in our education system. And, no government should not run our healthcare, Our government is too corupt to be allowed that much power and control over us. Healthcare needs to be addressed but not in the manner of the current proposal. Look at the Dept. of Energy, created to remove our dependence on foreign oil in the Carter Administration. It's grown into a huge department that has a massive budget and has not put us one step closer to independence from foriegn oil. Look at how the government handled New Orleans, And people want the government to handle our healthcare? That my friend is a true example of "The dumbing down of America"

Awesome point.

When Obama was elected this poster praised people for being so smart, now all of a sudden these same people are against Obama and now they are dumb.

Typical left wing mobster mentality.

The less the government in our lives the better, now that is smart!!!

And the majority want it that way.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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You liberals have 60 seats in the senate and 255 seats in the house, THE most liberal U.S. Senator of recent time in the White House and you still can't pass the Public Option.

Which means guess what? IT WILL NEVER happen or at least not anytime in the foreseeable future.

The chance would have been now and it has slipped away. And come 2010, the liberals hold on power will begin slipping as the Republicans start to pick up seats. Mark my words.

Does anyone disagree?
You're right there won't be no public option, won't be any of that Social(ist Security or Medicare either. That'll teach'em.
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