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Old 09-02-2009, 04:35 PM
 
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I keep hearing arguments denouncing "frivolous" lawsuits, which makes me wonder; how do you determine that a case is frivolous without hearing the evidence? In every case there are procedural hearing before a judge whereby the opposing attorney's present an outline of their evidence, if the case is indeed frivolous it will end with a dismissal, if there is sufficient evidence of a wrong it will proceed. So outside of the court room, how does one limit "frivolous" lawsuits?

PS - most folks idea of what is frivolous and what isn't is usually based upon what is reported in the media, hardly a venue for determining merit, so besides the problem of establishing frivolousness outside of a court room, on what basis do you personally use for determining whether a case has merit or not without having heard the evidence?
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:11 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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If a person seeks more compensation than that which was actually lost it is frivolous. Attempting to "earn" money through misfortune is frivolous. Allowing lawyers to "earn" percentages of the awards is frivolous. The only reason that this type of litigation even exists is because of the trial lawyers lobby and all of their former lawyer friends in Congress.

If the post was made as a lead-in to some type of tort reform type discussion, well that is basically how I would view it as well. I don't believe lawyers should be able to cash in on these types of cases either. Their, the lawyers that is, whole existence simply proves that our legal system is ridiculous. That ordinary people cannot go into a courtroom and present their case in plain language is proof that the system is designed to support a false economy of lawyers who really serve no useful purpose. They only exist through their own knowledge of "secret handshakes" and archaic rituals designed to obscure common sense that could be applied by the "common" people to resolve disputes. But that is a whole other topic. Lawyers are like bankers, evil manipulators and oppressors of the common man.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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get real, damages are often specified in the statutes, so the plaintiff has that as a monetary reason to bring suit.

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Old 09-02-2009, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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get real, damages are often specified in the statutes
Get real, punitive damages are usually not specified in statutes
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Get real, punitive damages are usually not specified in statutes
Get real, plenty of laws specify a formula for awarding damages.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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"Frivilous lawsuits" is fat-cat code for "keep the bootheel on the weak." Always has been. So they don't like it when so-called "trial lawyers" (as opposed to the ARMIES OF ATTORNEYS that the fat-cats hire) lobby to keep the status quo. But what is a fat-cat guaranteed to pay attention to? The threat of monetary damages.

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Old 09-02-2009, 07:42 PM
 
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I keep hearing arguments denouncing "frivolous" lawsuits, which makes me wonder; how do you determine that a case is frivolous without hearing the evidence? In every case there are procedural hearing before a judge whereby the opposing attorney's present an outline of their evidence, if the case is indeed frivolous it will end with a dismissal, if there is sufficient evidence of a wrong it will proceed. So outside of the court room, how does one limit "frivolous" lawsuits?

PS - most folks idea of what is frivolous and what isn't is usually based upon what is reported in the media, hardly a venue for determining merit, so besides the problem of establishing frivolousness outside of a court room, on what basis do you personally use for determining whether a case has merit or not without having heard the evidence?
Could be that the "birfer" lawsuits are frivolous.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:48 PM
 
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It is most of the lawsuits now days that actaully never were intended to do anyhting other than get a settlement less than the cost of defending.
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:00 PM
 
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Could be that the "birfer" lawsuits are frivolous.
But as we have noted, and as I have pointed out, none of the birther lawsuits have made it to trial which in my mind demonstrates that judges are best suited for determining what is and what isn't a frivolous lawsuit, not some statute. And in even in the case of the birthers they are afforded to present their claims to a competent court, that is their right, as it should be.
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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I have an incredible hatred of corporations and immense disdain for Republicans. Republicans want tort reform so that large companies can get away with all the evil crap they do while little guy continues to get screwed by these legal institutions of organized crime. I do not see anything morally wrong with taking as much as one possibly can from these corporations.
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