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So, home schooling has been around in your country for a long time, still schools are getting worse. So, obviously those parents are not nearly as engaged or clever as you think
Home schooling has only been popular in the last decade or so.
Our schools have been decaying for many years, and politicians only have been giving lip service to improvements. And as they have continued to decay, more parents are pulling their children from those schools.
There is also a movement for "vouchers" - to allow parents who are dissatisfied with their government schools, to be able to go to a private / parochial school with a voucher to help off set the costs
So while these parents ARE engaged, it takes more than one or two. And then there are the whole group of parents with kids in government schools who flat out don't give a damn, and are not involved in any way - change does not occur fast in scenarios like this -
Let me be clear: We have many very fine and excelling public schools in the US. But, it is not uniform throughout the nation.
Home-schooled children are BY FAR more successful than their publicly-schooled counterparts. Their national test scores in all subjects are FAR HIGHER than their public-school counterparts. Home-schooled children on average rank in something like the 83rd percentile on nationalized tests. Where public-school children rank around the 40th percentile on the same tests. And Private schools are up around 60%. Homeschool is by far the best education you could ever provide for your children. If you have the desire and time to provide it.
I'm a fan of homeschooling but this is not factual. Intelligent kids with educational opportunities will do well wherever they go. There are marginal differences in some areas, depending on who you choose to include in your sample group. Nothing is BY FAR better. Unless you mean if the parents hire tutors or are extrememly intelligent and skilled in teaching their intellectually superior children. Then yes, homeschooling could be better BY FAR. For average/below average/I'm-keeping-them-home-so-they-don't-learn-about-evolution types...not a chance. Basically, for smart kids it's a wash.
Let me start first with saying. Anyone who isn't in favor of homeschooling is a complete idiot and utter waste of human space. And I get really tired of the left-wing propaganda that blasts home-schooling, and tries to pass laws to ban it.
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Left wing propaganda?? My boyfriend was home schooled until 9th grade in what he calls a 'hippie commune school'. It was a group of hippie left wing parents who got together and taught their children.
There are a LOT of 'left wing' liberal parents who home school their children, it's just that they don't get into the news by refusing to teach evolution and such.
Frankly in my view those are just radical Christian nuts who wanted to be among like-minded people or simply emigrate to the US without fulfilling the requirements. If it had really been about home-schooling, they could have decided to move to one of the neighboring European countries where it is legal
LOL, there has been millions of "radical Christian nuts" who came to America throughoiut the 200 years of our country to seek religious freedom. Read your history books. Maybe your books deleted it though when you went to school to make them PC.
I'm a fan of homeschooling but this is not factual. Intelligent kids with educational opportunities will do well wherever they go. There are marginal differences in some areas, depending on who you choose to include in your sample group. Nothing is BY FAR better. Unless you mean if the parents hire tutors or are extrememly intelligent and skilled in teaching their intellectually superior children. Then yes, homeschooling could be better BY FAR. For average/below average/I'm-keeping-them-home-so-they-don't-learn-about-evolution types...not a chance. Basically, for smart kids it's a wash.
I think you are downplaying homeschooling.
"The study demonstrated that homeschoolers, on the average, out-performed their counterparts in the public schools by 30 to 37 percentile points in all subjects. A significant finding when analyzing the data for 8th graders was the evidence that homeschoolers who are homeschooled two or more years score substantially higher than students who have been homeschooled one year or less. The new homeschoolers were scoring on the average in the 59th percentile compared to students homeschooled the last two or more years who scored between 86th and 92nd percentile."
"Numerous studies have found that homeschooled students on average outperform their peers on standardized tests. Homeschooling Achievement, a study conducted by National Home Education Research Institute (NHERI), supported the academic integrity of homeschooling. Among the homeschooled students who took the tests, the average homeschooled student outperformed his public school peers by 30 to 37 percentile points across all subjects. The study also indicates that public school performance gaps between minorities and genders were virtually non-existent among the homeschooled students who took the tests.
New evidence has been found that homeschooled children are getting higher scores on the ACT and SAT tests. A study at Wheaton College in Illinois showed that the freshmen that were homeschooled for high school scored fifty-eight points higher on their SAT scores than those students who attended public or private schools. Most colleges look at the ACT and SAT scores of homeschooled children when considering them for acceptance to a college. On average, homeschooled children score eighty-one points higher than the national average on the SAT scores"
"The average first-year GPAs, credits earned in the first year, ACT Composite test scores, and ACT English, Mathematics, Reading, and Science and Reasoning subtests for home school graduates were all higher than traditional high school graduates. Although the sample was relatively small, the ACT Composite test score results for home school graduates was an average of 22.8, which matched identically to the national average in 2000 for home school students (ACT 2000). The national average for all students in 2000 was 21, which was nearly identical to the 21.3 average for the traditional high school graduate."
"John Taylor later found, using the Piers-Harris Children's Self-Concept Scale, "while half of the conventionally schooled children scored at or below the 50th percentile (in self-concept), only 10.3% of the home-schooling children did so." He further stated that "the self-concept of home-schooling children is significantly higher (and very much so statistically) than that of children attending the conventional school. This has implications in the areas of academic achievement and socialization, to mention only two. These areas have been found to parallel self-concept. Regarding socialization, Taylor's results would mean that very few home-schooling children are socially deprived. He states that critics who speak out against homeschooling on the basis of social deprivation are actually addressing an area which favors homeschoolers
"In 2003, the National Home Education Research Institute conducted a survey of 7,300 U.S. adults who had been homeschooled (5,000 for more than seven years). Their findings included:
Homeschool graduates are active and involved in their communities. 71% participate in an ongoing community service activity, like coaching a sports team, volunteering at a school, or working with a church or neighborhood association, compared with 37% of U.S. adults of similar ages from a traditional education background.
Homeschool graduates are more involved in civic affairs and vote in much higher percentages than their peers. 76% of those surveyed between the ages of 18 and 24 voted within the last five years, compared with only 29% of the corresponding U.S. populace. The numbers are even greater in older age groups, with voting levels not falling below 95%, compared with a high of 53% for the corresponding U.S. populace.
58.9% report that they are "very happy" with life, compared with 27.6% for the general U.S. population. 73.2% find life "exciting", compared with 47.3%."
LOL, there has been millions of "radical Christian nuts" who came to America throughoiut the 200 years of our country to seek religious freedom. Read your history books. Maybe your books deleted it though when you went to school to make them PC.
For many - though not all - parents in my view it is an ideological thing. HS is part of that entire conservative government is evil movement.
I am still waiting for specific examples of things parents don't want their kids to learn at those evil conventional schools After all, deciding on the curriculum is mentioned as a key advantage by HS advocates.
Left wing propaganda?? My boyfriend was home schooled until 9th grade in what he calls a 'hippie commune school'. It was a group of hippie left wing parents who got together and taught their children.
There are a LOT of 'left wing' liberal parents who home school their children, it's just that they don't get into the news by refusing to teach evolution and such.
I guess that is the problem with all HS. Parents try to turn their kids into clones of themselves because they take themselves and their own attitudes / opinions too seriously.
I guess that is the problem with all HS. Parents try to turn their kids into clones of themselves because they take themselves and their own attitudes / opinions too seriously.
As opposed to believing everything the government tells you? An aquiescent society is one easily manipulated. Most European societies accept that if their government says it...it must be true.
The US was started by rebels and still has a large contingent of rebels. This makes it harder to govern, but also leads to more individual rights.
Here is a good post from a right wing blog showing the difference between the two societies and using home schooling as the illustration.
As opposed to believing everything the government tells you? An aquiescent society is one easily manipulated. Most European societies accept that if their government says it...it must be true.
The US was started by rebels and still has a large contingent of rebels. This makes it harder to govern, but also leads to more individual rights.
Here is a good post from a right wing blog showing the difference between the two societies and using home schooling as the illustration.
What gives you that idea? Europeans criticize their governments just like Americans, maybe in a more constructive and civilized way, though. We don't run around with weapons threatening directly or indirectly to kill politicians, abortion doctors, and other people we don't like.
Your link just shows how stupid and radical those people are. And why stress that the law dates back to the early 20th century? Hardcore Christians date their rules and morals back to a simple-minded society promoting genocide more than 2000 years ago
Apart from that Germany's anti-HS law has been challenged several times both before national and European courts, without success.
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