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armed revolution, and once again, a portion of their listeners erupt into violence.
Consider the curious historical synchronicity of all this: after the inauguration of a new Democratic president, there has been a sudden upsurge of right-wing polemicists agitating right-wing citizens into right-wing-motivated acts of violence. The last time things came together like this was back in 1993, after the Waco and Ruby Ridge debacles, combined with the passage of NAFTA and the Brady Bill, detonated into a militia movement that was wildly active, and exceedingly violent, throughout the entirety of President Bill Clinton's two terms.
Dozens of militia-related incidents, including the Oklahoma City bombing, took place during those years. In 2001, however, these incidents stopped almost completely, and for the entirety of George W. Bush's two terms as president, hardly a peep was heard from the militia movement that had been so robustly vigorous during the administration of Bush's predecessor.
armed revolution, and once again, a portion of their listeners erupt into violence.
Consider the curious historical synchronicity of all this: after the inauguration of a new Democratic president, there has been a sudden upsurge of right-wing polemicists agitating right-wing citizens into right-wing-motivated acts of violence.
What "acts of violence"? I have heard no reports of any "right-wing" acts of violence. But there have been left-wing acts of violence reported, the most recent being a man bit off the finger of a man protesting against Obama's health care take over.
Another was a break in, attributed first to a "right-winger", but later found not to be, but to some left-wing nut job.
A man carried a weapon into a "town hall" meeting (he wasn't violet, however) and it was reported that he was a right-wing "white man". He was black, and he was not with the "right-wing", it was later discovered (the video proved he was black).
Back during the campaign, leftist claimed that someone at a Palin rally was screaming, "kill him". Investigation by both the FBI and the Secret service could find no corroborating evidence or witnesses.
No one has called for armed revolution! Can you name someone who has, with a link to audio or something written?
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The last time things came together like this was back in 1993, after the Waco and Ruby Ridge debacles, combined with the passage of NAFTA and the Brady Bill, detonated into a militia movement that was wildly active, and exceedingly violent, throughout the entirety of President Bill Clinton's two terms.
Oh, come on now! Examples, please? "Throughout" the Clinton administration? Is this what they call "yellow journalism"?
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Dozens of militia-related incidents, including the Oklahoma City bombing, took place during those years.
Yeah, and the OKC bombing was done by a left-wing radical Al Qaeda sympathizer who had met in the Philippines with Muslim terrorists.
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In 2001, however, these incidents stopped almost completely, and for the entirety of George W. Bush's two terms as president, hardly a peep was heard from the militia movement that had been so robustly vigorous during the administration of Bush's predecessor.
I guess you would exclude the anti-Bush, anti-war-in-Iraq, protests, the Cindy Sheehans and her supporter groups, the just-plain-hate George Bush protests, those threatening to have Bush assassinated, or wishing-someone-else-would groups, DailyKos, and MoveOn, daily damaging and undermining the war effort.
Why is that?
I remember seeing a lot of loud angry protests during the Bush years. At some events conservative speakers were shouted down and not allowed to speak, even though they had been invited, and property damage was done.
A mob of angry protesters entered a church, and mid sermon, rose and began shouting and roughing up people, and did damage to the church.
right wing acts of violence since obama's election:
the shooting at the holocaust museum
the murder of dr. george tiller
the shooting of 5 police officers (3 killed) by a white supremacist in pittsburgh who told friends "obama is going to take my guns away"
how many people did leftists kill in politically motivated acts of violence during 8 years of the bush administration? less than a year into obama's presidency people on the far right have killed 5.
"loud angry protesting" does not compare. property destruction does not compare. getting into a fistfight does not compare.
right wing acts of violence since obama's election:
the shooting at the holocaust museum
the murder of dr. george tiller
the shooting of 5 police officers (3 killed) by a white supremacist in pittsburgh who told friends "obama is going to take my guns away"
how many people did leftists kill in politically motivated acts of violence during 8 years of the bush administration? less than a year into obama's presidency people on the far right have killed 5.
"loud angry protesting" does not compare. property destruction does not compare. getting into a fistfight does not compare.
Besides the obvious, you have an remarkable amount of inciting of violence as Republican representatives stand by and say nothing. This is their tactic.
GOP Tacitly Accepts Mob Violence While Progressives Step Up Reform Drive
With corporate violence spreading at some Town Hall events — death threats against a legislator, arrests, even guns being brought to a Memphis meeting — GOP leaders won’t condemn violent tactics, but even point to the mobs as a sign that they’re winning.
So these few fringe cases speak for every conservative? Are you kidding me?
Weak.
did i say they speak for every conservative?
i said they're on the fringe. of course they're not representative of the mainstream right in this country.
but the fact remains that this kind of stuff happens on the right. it doesn't happen on the left, at least not in the last 30 years or so. and at least since clinton incidents like this have increased in frequency, along with right-wing commentators' calls for an armed uprising, during democratic presidencies. those are facts.
and again, bring up riots (or in the case of one of your articles "scuffles with the police", ooh, scary) all you want, but how many people did leftists go out and shoot or otherwise kill during bush's presidency?
gsupstate, do you have some evidence that the holocaust museum shooter was a democrat? there were reports in the media that he was a poster on freerepublic who advanced birther theories. this is purported to be a history of his posts: http://irregulartimes.com/freerepubl...swvonbrunn.htm
not that means he couldn't possibly be a democrat, but it's not very likely.
but the fact remains that this kind of stuff happens on the right. it doesn't happen on the left, at least not in the last 30 years or so. and at least since clinton incidents like this have increased in frequency, along with right-wing commentators' calls for an armed uprising, during democratic presidencies. those are facts.
I've listened to my share of conservative talk shows, especially Rush and Savage, and have heard nothing about an "armed uprising." Sure, conservatives support the right to bear arms, but that doesn't translate to rampaging through the streets and killing people.
Many right-wing acts of terrorism during the Clinton years were carried out by Eric Rudolph. Probably his most well known act was the bombing at Centennial Olympic Park during the '96 summer olympics:
He also bombed numerous abortion clinics and at least one gay nightclub.
He eluded capture for years and years, and it is widely believed that he was being protected/hidden by like minded extremists in the Appalachian mountains.
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Is this what they call "yellow journalism"? 
