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The militia (obligated to train, fight and die), include all male citizens, between 17 and 45.
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, CITIZENS of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Title 50 USC Sec. 453. Registration (Selective Service)
(a)...it shall be the duty of every male CITIZEN of the United States, and every other male person RESIDING in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder.
If true, then by virtue of simply being a citizen of this country, all male citizens of the US between 18 and 45 are slaves to the government already. And most became slaves at birth because that's when they became citizens. I would say that's the ultimate thievery. Thank God I'm free because I'm not in that age range anymore.
Oh, and I have no problem with socialism because it's everywhere and I don't suffer as a result. I pay taxes and I get a) police coverage, b) fire protection, c) running water, d) sewer lines, e) public schools, etc.. What I don't see is any benefit from my neighbor, Joe Blow, the 18-year old, having to go across the planet to kill people because somebody brainwashed him into thinking the odd-looking non-English speaking people there were his or our collective enemies. I've written before that that kind of socialism is pure evil, as evil as the kind that puts my tax dollars into a banker's hands.
Stealing is taking another's property without permission or consent.
So taking money from one person to give to another against their wishes is thievery. This practice is the sole purpose of the vast majority of Amerikan Godvernment activities.
Fill in any "social program" that you wish and it is nothing more than thievery. Where is the trouble in seeing this?
However, in light of the Constitution, the Amerikan Godvernment is more correctly defined as participating in extortion.
Extortion is the illegal use of official position or powers to obtain property, funds, or patronage.
I'm asking you to provide specific examples of this happening in America right now. That seems to be what you are implying. Or are you just playing the "Awe shucks" card now? You're just ranting about Socialism for the sake of ranting? Is that what you are trying to sell now? Or are you just too confused to even know what you are trying to say?
I presume you are ignorant of the fact that if one fails to pay his socialist taxes, he faces prosecution, confiscation, and incarceration.
Remember, socialism and communism, as defined, abolish private property (absolute ownership).
Since 1935, when the government takes one's property, and doesn't pay just compensation, that is prima facie proof that said property is NOT private property.
Do you have specific examples to prove that socialism is NOT based upon denial of private property rights, and imposed by threats, duress and coercion?
Do you have any EVIDENCE to support your objections?
Or do you think that it is too clever by half to retort repeatedly, that you're not really in support of thievery, and socialism isn't really based on deprivation of another's property, and that by making him labor for the benefit of another is not really slavery.
Thirteenth Amendment:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
But I think what you really don't want to admit, is that the SOCIALISM in America is based upon the BIG LIE.
Most Americans are unaware of the BIG LIE.
Are you sure you want the readers to know the BIG LIE of socialism?
Okay, I'll tell you.
In America, Socialist InSecurity is 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude. The frauds of Socialism had to use deception to foist upon the American people the illusion that they had to ENROLL for an account and number before they could work in their own country.
Don't believe me - write a polite letter to your congressmen and senators, and ask them for a copy of the LAW that compels ALL AMERICANS to enroll or that punishes ANY AMERICAN who does not participate in Socialism.
Q1: Please send a copy of the law(s) that compels all Americans to participate in Social Security.
Q2: Please send a copy of any law(s) that punishes any American who does not participate in Social Security.
(I know that there is no law. I bought one of the first CD ROMs with the 50 titles of U.S. Code in 1992. And brother, I searched high and low for the law.)
So there you have it...
America's socialism, since 1935, has been based on a colossal LIE.
Million are misled to assume that they HAVE to comply or else.
And the smug, thieving socialists can say, "SEE, you volunteered!"
What will happen when enough Americans decide to cease volunteering?
In your world, you might redefine capitalism that way.
I prefer:
CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - Webster's Dictionary
A farmer who owns his farm enjoys capitalism. A farmer who does not is a tenant.
A laborer who owns the fruits of his labor enjoys capitalism. A laborer who does not is a slave.
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by individuals and operated for their individual profit.
Just say "NO" to socialism.
The Second American Revolution was in 1935, with the ascendancy of National Socialism (via Social Security Act of 1935).
The Third American Revolution erupted in 2009, with the realization that socialists have destroyed the prosperity of the American people, imposed a stifling bureaucracy, and transferred wealth and power to the Federal government.
Pulling out the rest of the tired definitions in your limp arsenal, eh.
And I wasn't defining or redefining capitalism in my post. Where did you get that from this?
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Originally Posted by helenejen
You do realize that innovation is the key to capitalism. You might want to try it with your posts in that very spirit.
Just for clarification, the military is not a form of socialism. The military is a service provided by the government for the common defense. Everybody benefits equally (in theory) from said defense provided by the United States Military, and thus you're not robbing Peter to pay Paul. Now, that doesn't mean you have to agree with it, but it doesn't necessarily make it socialism.
Socialism is (dictionary.com):
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1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
Furthermore, the military industrial complex (the means of production), whether you agree with it or not, is primarily composed of private companies (Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrop-Grumman, etc.). In fact, recognizing that competition is the key to innovation, the military routinely holds competitions for defense contracts, such as the JSF and the ATF.
The government bailing out companies by taking part ownership in them, and then directing how they can be run, is a form of socialism, because it represents government taking ownership of the means of production. So there...an example of socialism in recent times. Happy?
If true, then by virtue of simply being a [1] citizen of this country, all male citizens of the US between 18 and 45 are slaves to the government already. And most became slaves at birth because that's when they became citizens. I would say that's the ultimate thievery. Thank God I'm free because I'm not in that age range anymore.
Oh, and I have no problem with socialism because it's everywhere and I don't suffer as a result. I pay taxes and [2] I get a) police coverage, b) fire protection, c) running water, d) sewer lines, e) public schools, etc.. [3] What I don't see is any benefit from my neighbor, Joe Blow, the 18-year old, having to go across the planet to kill people because somebody brainwashed him into thinking the odd-looking non-English speaking people there were his or our collective enemies. I've written before that that kind of socialism is pure evil, as evil as the kind that puts my tax dollars into a [4] banker's hands.
[1] Citizens are subjects. However, the American people are sovereigns. Citizenship is voluntary. See Declaration of Independence. Job #1 - secure rights. Job #2 - govern those who consent.
[2] Police - the police are under no obligation to protect. You cannot sue the police for failure to protect - except when in government custody.
Fire protection - firemen do not "protect" against fires. Firemen come to help put out fires. Volunteer fire departments put out fires just as well as professional fire departments.
Running Water and sewers - public water and sewer are not socialism. The lines are not collectively owned. "Everyone" doesn't pay for them. Only those who are attached, pay for the service.
Public schools - only those liable for the school tax pay for it (i.e. real estate property owners). Before socialism, public schools were funded. Though current socialist levies are diverted to the schools, they were not originally funded by socialism.
Perhaps you lack the discrimination to determine what is collective ownership versus public property and utilities.
[3] Military misadventures are partly due to the influence of usurers (bankers), the abominations, who are in control of this nation's institutions and current monies.
[4] Usury has been denounced for over 3500 years. However usurers have made alliances with socialists, to advance their predation upon the peoples of America and the world.
Coincidentally, Ezekiel 18:13 KJV states that usurers are abominations, and shall surely die, their blood be on their own hands. That is not to imply that "Good Bible Loving Folks" should immediately execute bankers. But that when the usurer / socialist alliance kills American usurers, there is no "Diving Wrath" forthcoming. And in case you were unaware, every American with an interest bearing bank account is a usurer. Coincidentally, no instrumentality of the Federal Reserve will open an interest bearing account for the unnumbered - bless their hearts!
Combine 100% voluntary servitude with the abomination of usury, and you get the best / worst of all tyranny - abominable enslavement - by consent.
That's a shame. Some of the freedom haters might even be amusing if they actually contributed something to the thread.
Are you and jetgraphics dating or something? If so, you should already be familiar with his reposts that have been addressed numerous times on this forum.
When confronted by slogan throwing left wing socialist thieves, who espouse feigned concern for the "victim of the week", just append the anti-socialist prefix and throw it back in their face.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - (fill in the blank)
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another -so that no one should die because they cannot afford health care.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one should go broke.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one loses their family's house because they get sick.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one should die.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one should go blind.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one should be crippled because they can't afford health care.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one should go broke because they get sick.
No one should be compelled to work for the benefit of another - so that no one should be unable to change jobs because of a "pre-existing condition."
Voluntary charity is a blessing.
Compulsory charity is a curse.
Slavery is never excused by expediency. The socialist solution imposed on "other people" by government force is nothing less than involuntary servitude, which is anathema to the U.S. Constitution for the United States of America.
Do you work for the Benefit of Another?
if not, what do you do?
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