Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 09-08-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
4,783 posts, read 3,742,256 times
Reputation: 1336

Advertisements

And how are they different may I ask?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-08-2009, 01:30 PM
 
Location: State of Being
35,879 posts, read 77,498,031 times
Reputation: 22752
Quote:
Originally Posted by irspow View Post
And how are they different may I ask?
I have been thinking that it seems a lot like pre-Revolutionary War issues are at the forefront. Perhaps few remember "Taxation Without Representation" and the Intolerable Acts. If folks would actually READ the Cap & Trade bill, perhaps they would understand why this Administration is gonna bankrupt the middle class with these current Intolerable Acts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Earth
17,440 posts, read 28,602,920 times
Reputation: 7477
Quote:
Originally Posted by tablemtn View Post
I would be shocked if even a third of American adults were even physically capable of any sort of expeditionary or offensive-style military operations of the sort you'd need in a civil war.

It's just not going to happen.
Not capable of war. But capable of terrorism, or asymmetrical warfare as it is otherwise known.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 07:23 AM
 
1,535 posts, read 1,633,959 times
Reputation: 385
Leaderless rebellion, if martial law is declared and the gov starts conifiscation weapons then all bets are off.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
18,158 posts, read 15,628,539 times
Reputation: 17149
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverOne View Post
Leaderless rebellion, if martial law is declared and the gov starts conifiscation weapons then all bets are off.
Such a thing is problematic for the Feds. In order to send out the troops to confiscate peoples weapons, they have to justify the action, somehow. We should take notice of what happened during Katrina, natural disasters are a prime opportunity for martial law to be implemented, as are large acts of terrorism or civil unrest, such as the Rodney King riots. I remember watching footage of NG and Marine troops lighting people up from gun hummers and such from the latter incident. Does anyone actually remember the plans Nixon had for this nation? Lol, thing is, when such action , to such incidents, is taken by the government, it is often done to wild cheering. One of these days the 'emergency measures' will not be stood down. Only then will the danger become clear to folks.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
8,396 posts, read 9,442,882 times
Reputation: 4070
Quote:
Originally Posted by irspow View Post
Yes traitors just like those who opposed the King. LOL

If the king would have won, those 'traitors' would have been executed.

When the CSA lost, how, many Confederate leaders were hanged?

"With malice towards none and charity towards all."

Look it up.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Gone
25,231 posts, read 16,938,118 times
Reputation: 5932
Quote:
Originally Posted by irspow View Post
And how are they different may I ask?
We have a government elected by the People, meaning we are represented, don't like them, vote them out. Kings are not voted on and we were not represented. Because one side loses an election does to justify them attempting to tear down the legally elected government, those that do attempt to do so are Not Patriots. Clear?
Casper
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
4,783 posts, read 3,742,256 times
Reputation: 1336
Leaders who break the Constitution, even if they "represent" us as you believe, should be executed. In my humble opinion, if any goDvernemt official acts or endorses policy that is contrary to the constitution, he is an enemy of the people and thus should be removed, by violence if necessary. I can agree that we disagree on the "representation" issue.

The fact of the matter is that the people who initiated the Revolutionary War represented a very small minority of the population and were very "radical". Also, those radicals acted against a "legal" government. The King was not an invader or anything, our founders simply rebelled against their government because their interests ran contrary to theirs. They had no legal standing to do so whatsoever.

You are free to believe that those who feel oppressed now are wrong and you are free to hold that opinion. But I am free to believe that this socialist government oppresses far too many people in pursuit of instituting a eutopian vision that very few are aware of much less agree with. Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
3,727 posts, read 6,223,758 times
Reputation: 4257
Default Yes it can.

Because the prevailing thought is "it cant happen here" or "never in America" is exactly why it could happen here.Once again,the old frog in the slowly boiling pot analogy,only this time a hell of a lot of Americans are going to jump out of the pot before it gets much hotter.The nation is perhaps closer to large scale civil unrest and violence then at any time since 1865,and that includes the Vietnam era disturbances.No,not all out civil war or states or regions leaving the union,but,as previous posts have mentioned,localized guerilla warfare,sabotage,and terrorist acts.Never in my lifetime has there been so much emnity between differing political ideologies as there is today.Those of us on the right have never had so much seething hatred and utter contempt for the left as we do today,and am sure that the feeling is mutual.The feeling among many conservatives is that we simply will not allow the far left to turn the USA into a modern clone of the old Soviet Union,as the Obama administration seems hell bent on doing.We will not alllow the USA to become a clone of the the effete Euro-Socialists.Whether or not the left believes or not,or likes it or not,America is still a center-right nation,with most citizens either moderates or conservatives.While only a few extremeists on the far end of both spectrums could wish to see the horror of Americans killing Americans,it could happen.The best solution,is of course,free elections and the ballot box.If,under some pretext,the elections of 2012 or 2010 were "postponed" because of a "national crisis",and martial law was declared,get ready to duck and take cover,because the bullets are going to start flying.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-09-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
18,158 posts, read 15,628,539 times
Reputation: 17149
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackShoe View Post
Because the prevailing thought is "it cant happen here" or "never in America" is exactly why it could happen here.Once again,the old frog in the slowly boiling pot analogy,only this time a hell of a lot of Americans are going to jump out of the pot before it gets much hotter.The nation is perhaps closer to large scale civil unrest and violence then at any time since 1865,and that includes the Vietnam era disturbances.No,not all out civil war or states or regions leaving the union,but,as previous posts have mentioned,localized guerilla warfare,sabotage,and terrorist acts.Never in my lifetime has there been so much emnity between differing political ideologies as there is today.Those of us on the right have never had so much seething hatred and utter contempt for the left as we do today,and am sure that the feeling is mutual.The feeling among many conservatives is that we simply will not allow the far left to turn the USA into a modern clone of the old Soviet Union,as the Obama administration seems hell bent on doing.We will not alllow the USA to become a clone of the the effete Euro-Socialists.Whether or not the left believes or not,or likes it or not,America is still a center-right nation,with most citizens either moderates or conservatives.While only a few extremeists on the far end of both spectrums could wish to see the horror of Americans killing Americans,it could happen.The best solution,is of course,free elections and the ballot box.If,under some pretext,the elections of 2012 or 2010 were "postponed" because of a "national crisis",and martial law was declared,get ready to duck and take cover,because the bullets are going to start flying.
You bring up some good points. The upcoming elections are scaring the left as they see the likleyhood of losing their supermajority, and it's not a stretch to them taking steps to keep it by trumping up a reason to 'postpone' or cancel the elections. That WOULD cause some issues to arise. No doubt about it. Things could get very ugly very fast in such a situation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:01 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top